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Old August 22nd, 2008, 08:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
krunchkrunch
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Thanks Bob - I always have liked Canadians since I went to Banff !! ... but I came here to ask if anyone knows if anybody DOES make them right - and i still haven't got anywhere. Please nobody accept what i am saying as gospel - but go and check it out for yourselves - you may well spot something I haven't and we would all like to know - I am tempted to make a detailed check list for potential vintage buyers to protect them from getting scammed - screw sizes, threads, number of teeth on bushes, what looks suspicious and why .. that sort of thing - but there are a lot of people who wouldn't like that (especially some pro vintage dealers) because it isn't in their interest that it all becomes common knowledge - rather like doctors really !

If anyone thinks it is of use then I will do it and you guys can check, edit and maybe we can produce a fairly accurate document that may help others ?

We have all got enough guitars between us to take reference photos and do side by side comparisons to show some things to look out for at least - the document will never be totally accurate because there were a number of things that varied simply due to production processes, machines wearing out, changes or multiple suppliers - screws for example - but there is a distinct pattern on most items and these are the things to start with. I have seen a vintage guitar in a shop in London that came with a "certificate of authenticity" from a very very well known and seemingly respected dealer and recognised expert - i mean very well known - and he had confirmed it was a totally original custom colour strat - well there were 3 of us who had seen that guitar when it was being refinished only 7 years previously !! I am not kidding I promise you ! At least the guitar itself was
all original along with most of the components - the switch and 1 pot had been changed many timnes as is normal on a guitar that gets used - and the refinish was superb -but this guy has been doing it for a living since 1968 and also makes antique furniture and paintings - making a guitar look old is a very simple thing for him - anyway that's just one example - that is something i would not be able to spot no way - he got it all right - he painted it the same way - was very careful not to sand away any wood etc - he takes his time - I can only be sure about spotting the structural details and component details - but if someone gets them right I won't be able to see it - I know I could get it right so i am sure someelse can do it much better than me - but we can at least protect people from the obvious fakes.
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