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January 12th, 2009, 02:06 PM
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SCXD and PRRI side by side video
Made a vid comparing the cleans:
Which sounds better to you?
BTW, I biased the SCXD which was way cold from factory and put in a new speaker (same Jensen that is the PRRI) -
SCXD - clean tone same as PRRI (well, 95% there), multiple voicings, slightly more smaller sounding, made in china - $279
PRRI - better reverb, bigger sound, no distortion channels, USA made. - $849
To me, these two sound identical side by side and that amazed me. The SCXD is a great little amp!
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January 12th, 2009, 02:26 PM
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I totally agree. The Super Champ does sound slightly smaller but otherwise they sound the same.
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January 12th, 2009, 05:30 PM
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Yes, the sound similar.
I'd like to hear them both cranked all the way up to see how they compare then.
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January 12th, 2009, 05:49 PM
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Yea, that is a bit of a different story. Ill be doing a PT 2 soon to compare cranked volume playing.
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January 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM
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i agree with everyone...the champ sounds smaller...and nice playing btw
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January 13th, 2009, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevehuff69
SCXD - clean tone same as PRRI (well, 95% there), multiple voicings, slightly more smaller sounding, made in china - $279
PRRI - better reverb, bigger sound, no distortion channels, USA made. - $849
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ok i was pricing some amps tonight i dont know if i can say where so i wont...but the PRRI was $899 and the SCXD was $329...by the sound comparison made by Steve im willing to pay the $329 vs his $279...with a whopping almost $600 dollars in savings over the PRRI...not to mention i am considering the DRRI for $50 more over the PRRI
i am very interested in the full volume test...i cant wait 
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January 13th, 2009, 11:06 PM
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I have experience with both amps. The SCXD is a great deal. Really super for the price. The Princeton is a keeper amp. The kind you buy and keep for a long time. Plus, if you change out the PR's 10" speaker with a 12" you'll be shocked at how big and how good it sounds.
I also have owned a DRRI and I'd still take the PR over the DRRI even though the price is close. But if cost is an issue, and it usually is the SCXD is a fantastic value.
PS. I've also owned a HRD and the PR wins hands down.
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January 13th, 2009, 11:36 PM
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the princeton seems a little like deeper sounding they both sounded good and great playing
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January 14th, 2009, 01:18 PM
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Steve,
You put in a new speaker (same as from the PRRI). While I'm guessing you had a spare lying around(?), what would you estimate the cost of that speaker as? Just trying to compare dollars to dollars.
Also, I'm guessing that since you replaced the speaker, you didn't like the comparison stock?
EDIT: ok I see that the PRRI has a Jensen C10R which runs about $40. So still a superb deal!
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January 14th, 2009, 02:06 PM
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The sc def dose soun smaller .. But they both sound pretty good.. Thanks for the demo.. Good playing..
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February 19th, 2009, 03:40 PM
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To me the TONE is identical, the difference I hear is in the size of the cabinet , the PRRI seems to have more gain . 
How did you adjust the Bias on the SCXD?
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February 20th, 2009, 04:07 PM
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On the SCXD,did you set the Bias to 40mV at TP22? or lower?
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July 6th, 2009, 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevehuff69
Made a vid comparing the cleans:
YouTube - Fender Super Champ vs Fender Princeton Reverb RI
Which sounds better to you?
BTW, I biased the SCXD which was way cold from factory and put in a new speaker (same Jensen that is the PRRI) -
SCXD - clean tone same as PRRI (well, 95% there), multiple voicings, slightly more smaller sounding, made in china - $279
PRRI - better reverb, bigger sound, no distortion channels, USA made. - $849
To me, these two sound identical side by side and that amazed me. The SCXD is a great little amp!
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Aww, dang, you removed this video! I wanted to watch it again; both amps are on my radar for different reasons.
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July 7th, 2009, 11:53 AM
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Aww, dang, you removed this video! I wanted to watch it again; both amps are on my radar for different reasons.
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Hey Pat this is Aaron, who bought your strat. I got the SCXD about 3 months ago and I love it. I would definetly buy it over the PRRI for many reasons: price, multiple gain settings and more FX. I was thinking of getting a DRRI though soon but don't know if it is too loud for my uses. I need to find one and play with it.
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July 7th, 2009, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark13579
Hey Pat this is Aaron, who bought your strat. I got the SCXD about 3 months ago and I love it. I would definetly buy it over the PRRI for many reasons: price, multiple gain settings and more FX. I was thinking of getting a DRRI though soon but don't know if it is too loud for my uses. I need to find one and play with it.
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Hey Aaron!
I've played a co-worker's SCXD a bit, but found that I didn't really like most of the gain-based voices; most of what I like to play starts out on clean, and uses pedals for dirt. But the SC is definitely a flexible beast, and cheap! Can't beat either of those things.
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July 7th, 2009, 10:03 PM
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The video is gone.
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July 8th, 2009, 11:11 AM
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Yeah I didn't really like channel two either. I have pedals for that but the Clean channel is good. I think the SCXD is great. It is good for me for the time being but I hope to get a DRRI soon. Your CV Strat is amazing! I play it everyday for hours. I like it so much that I have decided when the funds approve to buy the 60s version, for the RW fretboard.
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