Fender Stratocaster Guitar Forum



Warmoth.com Amplified Parts lacemusic.com seymourduncan.com


Go Back   Fender Stratocaster Guitar Forum > DIY Channel > DIY Effects Forum
Forgot Username/Password? Join Us!

Notices

DIY Effects Forum Building your own effects and stompboxes? Crow about it here. NON-COMMERCIAL ONLY

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old December 21st, 2011, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
DS-1 Modding

I've found lots of information on modding the DS-1, but I have no modding or electronics experience. I was thinking about doing the Indyguitarist Vintage Mod, but I might go even simpler and just look for some way to make the tone control more responsive and useable in all positions.

Or cut back on noise...mine has recently started making a crazy buzz in higher gain settings, though it's bearable since I typically work around 2-3 o'clock.

Any input on fixing the tone control, the Vintage mod, or other ideas?

(Btw, I posted something like this in the Effects forum before I noticed the DIY...and the edit option disappeared so I can't delete it.)

__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 22nd, 2011, 07:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Ok I'm thinking:
R16 to 4.7k (Mid Boost)
C10 to .022uf (Roll of some highs)
D5 to Green LED (More uncompressed, tubey distortion)

I've heard these work. Thoughts? Should I roll of some more with a .033 in C10?
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 22nd, 2011, 07:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
Dog Whisperer
 
stevierayfan91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Private
Posts: 6,449
hey, man
There is a guy named Monte Allums, who mods Boss pedals..Like you can send it to him, and he has several diff. mods for each of them .

Might be worth emailing him via his website to ask how you'd send it to him? Just a thought since it's a bit tricky to do stuff to pedals if you don't know how to solder? I can't either :( .

Thanks .
__________________
"Never Give Up!!!-Stark-buddy.
"Thank you every-buddy who has helped me"
"If we don't learn from our mistakes, we're destined to fail."RB-buddy.
stevierayfan91 is offline   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links   #
Sponsored posting
 

Old December 22nd, 2011, 07:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
inkedintville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Carolina
Age: 33
Posts: 3,666
Monte has some good stuff. I've used a couple of his kits. Detail instructions if you like to read them thangs. I just like to see which component goes where and go at it.
__________________
"I may not believe in myself, but I believe in what I'm doing." Jimmy Page
inkedintville is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 22nd, 2011, 08:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
I've heard monte's DS-1 mods and haven't been thrilled with them.
I'm looking back at Brian Wampler's Vintage mod again, though maybe replacing C10 with a .022 if there's still too much treble.
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 22nd, 2011, 09:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
Dog Whisperer
 
stevierayfan91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Private
Posts: 6,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by WetSand View Post
I've heard monte's DS-1 mods and haven't been thrilled with them.
I'm looking back at Brian Wampler's Vintage mod again, though maybe replacing C10 with a .022 if there's still too much treble.
Ahh, I didn't know Wampler modded pedals too, man. I just knew Monte and Robert Keeley did .

But also that Keeley's prices were really high in some cases?


Thanks .
__________________
"Never Give Up!!!-Stark-buddy.
"Thank you every-buddy who has helped me"
"If we don't learn from our mistakes, we're destined to fail."RB-buddy.
stevierayfan91 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 22nd, 2011, 09:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Wampler mods tend to be DIY, but he's a great guy and helpful to everyone, so maybe he'd do it for you. Email him and find out; i've heard he always responds very quickly.
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 26th, 2011, 11:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
Strat-Talk Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Homestead
Posts: 42
Here are a bunch of DS-1 mods from the Wampler book. They all sound better than the original pedal.  I like the tube emulator mod. You can get a good improvement just by changing D4 to a red LED.

Boss DS-1 Distortion

Boss ds-1—evil distortion
mod Location Mod value
D4 Led
D5 Led
C3 .068uf
C10 .047 uf
C12 .047uf

Boss ds-1 mod acid blues
Location Mod value
C12 .047 uf
C10 .1uf
R14 6.8k
D4 LED
D5 1n4001

Boss ds-1 mod-classic rock
Location Mod value
D4 led
R14 10k
C12 .047uf
C10 .1uf

Boss ds-1 mod tube emulator
Location Mod value
C2 1 uf
C3 .1 uf
C12 .047 uf
D4 LED
D5 1n4001
R14 10k

Boss ds-1 “mod 2”
Location Mod value
D5 Led
D4 Led
C2 1 uf
R14 10k
R16 2.2k
R13 2.2k

Boss ds-1—Vintage
Mod Location Mod value
D5 Led
C3 .033uf
R16 1k resistor
C11 .01uf
C1, C5 .1uf
Paying My Dues is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 26th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Thanks! I'm sure you haven't tried every one of them, but which do you think is the most like an overdriven tube. The Tube Emulator has got the name of course...

But thank you very much, I've been looking for some of these!
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 2nd, 2012, 07:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
New Member!
 
KREB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Irvine
Posts: 9
Wet sand
I've done a few DS-1 mods (Keeley SEM, diode swaps, transistor swaps ect..)and they all sound good in one way or another. Having said that, I am afraid our good buddy the DS-1 will never sound like an overdrive. However the best mod I have done to make a post 1994 DS-1 sound like a great DS-1 is the Brett Miller DS-1 "MIJ" mod. The mod consists of replacing C7 a 100pf ceramic cap to a 250pf ceramic cap/ C8 from .47uf 50v electrolytic cap to 1uf 50v cap/ C5 from .068uf film to the .47uf electrolytic you pulled from the last step/ for the fourth and final step remove the diodes and replace them with any diode type that has around .9-1V forward voltage like a 1N4150 in my case I used 2 red T1 led's. Anyway there are a lot of ways you can go with the DS-1. The MIJ mod is the best I've found no fizzy distortion sounds just a nice round distortion tone that is very versatile. Good luck.
KREB is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 2nd, 2012, 08:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Well I'm thinking either tube emulator or vintage mod still, anybody know which is smoother?
Yeah, it's taking forever for me to actually get around to modding lol, I was on vacation though.
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 2nd, 2012, 09:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
New Member!
 
KREB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Irvine
Posts: 9
Try one. If you don't like the mod undo it and try another. I have a DS-1 that was my mod pedal for a long time, and another one I left alone until I found the sound I liked. I guess my point is the DS-1 can be had cheap so don't be afraid to cut your teeth on it or experiment. Just my 2 cents.
KREB is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 6th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Alright, well I've decided to do the Vintage mod. The tube emulator sounds great but I think the vintage is what I'm really after. I'll order soon and let you know how it goes.
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 6th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
Strat-O-Master
 
PicknGrin86's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Greenville NC
Posts: 602
I just put an overdrive before mine and it smooths right up
PicknGrin86 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 6th, 2012, 07:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Sadly, I don't have an overdrive. I put my money towards my guitar...
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 6th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
Strat-Talk Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Homestead
Posts: 42
I have done the acid blues, the classic, the vintage, the tube emulator, and the Keeley all seeing eye/ultra mod. I like the tube emulator and the Keeley best. As Kreb said they can be found cheap ($20) on CL so whenever I see one I pick it up and mod it. After reading this thread I want to get another one to try the Brett Miller MIJ mod.
Paying My Dues is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 6th, 2012, 10:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Stratmaster
 
Tony6Strings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Washington State
Age: 28
Posts: 2,631
Monte Allums, Keeley Seeing Eye, Analog Man... They're all great. What I love about these pedals is they don't cost much and there's tons of mod options which are fairly simple to do yourself. Kits don't cost much, and heck, if you're not DIY inclined, you can buy a pre-modded DS-1 from any of the aforementioned solder-happy tinkerers. I've got an early 80's MIJ DS-1 though, and that one stays stock, I would change a thing on it, sounds perfect as is.
__________________
She said she was a magic mama, and she could thrown a mean tarot... And carried on without a comma, that she was someone I should know.
Tony6Strings is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 6th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paying My Dues View Post
I have done the acid blues, the classic, the vintage, the tube emulator, and the Keeley all seeing eye/ultra mod. I like the tube emulator and the Keeley best. As Kreb said they can be found cheap ($20) on CL so whenever I see one I pick it up and mod it. After reading this thread I want to get another one to try the Brett Miller MIJ mod.
Can you tell me about the difference between the tube emulator and vintage mods? The tube emulator doesn't have a long sound clip so I can't hear as much of what it's capable of as the vintage.

Basically, I like Fender overdriven sounds more than Marshall, but I do want access to higher gain. Which is best for that preference? From sound clips seems like vintage but you never know.
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 7th, 2012, 07:19 AM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Stratmaster
 
Giant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 37
Posts: 4,287
Where are you guys hearing these sound clips? Would you please post a link? I love my DS-1, but I am not above destroying it in the name of progress....
__________________
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence." -Charles Bukowski
Giant is offline   Reply With Quote

Old January 7th, 2012, 10:30 AM   #20 (permalink)
Strat-Talker
 
WetSand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Age: 18
Posts: 249
Well you can search youtube for modded DS-1s, but Wampler own sound clips are here:
http://www.indyguitarist.com/soundcl...intage-605.mp3
http://www.indyguitarist.com/soundclips/ds1-tubeemu.mp3
http://www.indyguitarist.com/soundcl...lassicrock.mp3
THose are the three I've checked out. If you want to here others(acid blues, evil, etc.) try substituting their names in the url. Wampler's mods sound best to me, plus he has a lot. But there are other options, Keeley, Monte Allums, Analogman, and some others.
__________________
I'm not funny.
WetSand is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modding my Bullet again... pchilson Squier Strat Forum 42 April 22nd, 2011 07:06 AM
New to modding guitars. lance3witt Squier Strat Forum 6 February 16th, 2010 12:51 PM
Modding a MIM Strat. loganbiffy Stratocaster Discussion Forum 5 December 19th, 2009 04:28 AM
modding a stratocaster strato_girl Stratocaster Discussion Forum 16 October 30th, 2009 01:03 PM
modding gone mad hendrixfan Sidewinders Bar & Grille 5 May 30th, 2009 06:26 AM

Untitled Document

Untitled Document

» Recent Strat-Talk Discussion
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



 


Design by: vBulletin Skins Zone
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2


The words Fender®, Telecaster®, Stratocaster® and the associated headstock designs are registered trademarks of the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation.
Strat-Talk.com is an independent, member supported forum and is not affiliated with Fender Musical Instruments Corporation.
© 2007 All rights reserved.

Strat-Talk.com is not responsible for the content posted by private individuals on this website. The views expressed herein are solely the opinions of the individuals that produced them and not necessarily the views of the owner of this website.