You Crybabies

Stratosaurus · June 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM

I knew the subject line would get you to read this

I just ordered my first wah pedal: a Dunlop Crybaby Classic (with the Fasel inductor).

Does anybody else here have one? Is there anything I should know about it such as cool modifications or tweaks that can be done with it?

I read several reviews and heard plenty of sound clips before buying it so I'm sure it'll be fine. Just looking for more info while I wait for it to arrive. A review will be written soon.

totallyfrozen · June 15th, 2006, 03:02 AM

Here's some info for you: I want one! There...I said it...wow, I feel so much better.

I wonder if it even needs any mods. I've heard plenty of good things about it already.

konu57 · June 15th, 2006, 06:50 AM

Well as far as some modifications you can do to your cry baby you could try to make it true bypass or you could add a contour switch or something like that like the cb 535q has.

Stratosaurus · June 15th, 2006, 12:41 PM

The Crybaby Classic has true bypass, as well as a Fasel inductor. For $99 you can't go wrong with those features.

I'm also wondering if it really needs any mods. I've heard nothing but good things as well. A contour switch would be cool. An on/off LED would be nice also.

I've heard of people selling their $200+ botique wah pedals for this unit.

konu57 · June 15th, 2006, 07:53 PM

I didn't know it is true bypass. If you play live the LED is very usefull ( one of the reason I bought the dimebag cry baby). Also a contour switch is a plus for me. I like to scoop some too high or too low frequencies depending on the song and the use. I can't think of any other mod right now.

This is not a modification but I like to set the rocker torque a little tight. I like feel the pedal under my foot. I don't want it to go back and forth with a small touch.

mr_hankey · June 16th, 2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stratosaurus

An on/off LED would be nice also.

A LED would increase the power consumption considerably; so it's not a very good idea if you use batteries.

konu57 · June 16th, 2006, 08:36 PM

Sure, but I suppose that most of the live players do not use batteries on stage. After all, how much the consumption will be increased? Would it be so noticeable? I mean I have no idea about that so it would be a good point for stratosaurus if we knew.

Stratosaurus · June 16th, 2006, 11:54 PM

I'm pretty familiar with LEDs. I haven't been messing around with electronics for long but I have a knack for all things technical.

Here's a great resource on LEDs:

Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs)

Most red LEDs are 2 volts, some low current ones being as low as 1.7 volts. Depending on the circuit and how much power it consumes, a single LED can drain a 9v battery much faster. But I plan on using the AC power cord so this isn't an issue for me.

konu57 · June 17th, 2006, 05:45 AM

Ok then. So will you add a LED? I find it very usefull to know when the wah is on or off when playing live. Did you think of another mods for that pedal? It's interesting to know.

Stratosaurus · June 17th, 2006, 10:01 AM

I will probably put the LED in, yeah. Any other mods will be considered after I hear it probably. If it doesn't sound good I'll look to see if they cheaped out on electronics and go from there.

FedEX pushed the delivery estimate back three days, to the 20th. It was supposed to be delivered today but according to the tracker it hasn't even left the FedEX station that it was shipped from yet.

totallyfrozen · June 17th, 2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by konu57

I didn't know it is true bypass. If you play live the LED is very usefull ( one of the reason I bought the dimebag cry baby). Also a contour switch is a plus for me. I like to scoop some too high or too low frequencies depending on the song and the use. I can't think of any other mod right now.

This is not a modification but I like to set the rocker torque a little tight. I like feel the pedal under my foot. I don't want it to go back and forth with a small touch.

I believe that it is true by-pass which is yet another cool thing about this pedal!

An LED would be really great, I think. I'm sure they didn't put one on it because it's Classic and the originals didn't have LEDs.
A contour would be cool too--but--do you think it would be possible to get what you wanted (or close to it) by putting an EQ pedal between wah and amp? I know no one wants to shell out for yet ANOTHER EQ...but...
And I've heard that the cheap-o Danelectro Fish & Chips sounds really good; although, it has a plastic housing which may not be road worthy. Besides the Dan'o, I wonder if using an EQ pedal after the wah would do the trick. I suppose it could be a pain to adjust the settings on stage between songs (if you had to).

Stratosaurus · June 17th, 2006, 09:13 PM

I've been thinking about getting an EQ pedal anyway, so maybe that's a better solution to hacking up the wah pedal. Although I was going to use the EQ to boost the highs for leads, maybe this would allow me to dial-in the wah better.

On the other hand, it might get repetative to stomp on an EQ before using the wah when it's time for a lead. Hrm. I'll have to play around with the options.

Maybe some pics of some of your guy's pedal boards would help. Right now I'm using a Bad Monkey straight into a VHT amp. I might put my Boss Metal Zone in as a pseudo EQ/Boost a'la Warren Haynes.

Stratosaurus · June 22nd, 2006, 02:26 AM

Well, it arrived yesterday.

For $99 shipped it exceeded my expectations. Compared to what few wah pedals I've used (again this is the first one I've owned,) this one has a surprising amount of character and expressiveness. I just need to remember not to be one of those guys that uses it at every turn.

I took some time play around with it in my apartment today and yesterday undoubtedly upsetting the neighbors unless, of course, they love Shaft and/or Hendrix. I've come to the conclusion that it really doesn't need any modifications at all. It is more than obvious soundwise when clicked off, partly due to the true bypass I assume, so I don't think an LED is necessary.

And I can't think of any reason to disturb the rest of the electronics as it sounds lush and expressive just the way it is.

Edit: Stay tuned for a sound clip... maybe... don't hold your breath.

konu57 · June 24th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Stratosaurus congratulations for the wah pedal! It's a nice pedal and by spending some time with it someone might come up with cool solos or nice funky tunes!
I am waiting for a clip!

Totallyfrozen, as far as the eq pedal: Yet I think an EQ pedal is a nice addition to someone's pedalboard, I don't believe that works exactly like the contour switch of a wah pedal. An EQ pedal will filter guitar's tone continuously. On the other hand a contour switch on a wah pedal will determine the concentration of the guitar's frequencies. So you can choose how low and how high you wanna sound when pushing the pedal up or down. For example you might set it to go really bassy when in heel position and not so trebly when in toe position, or to go not so bassy when in heel position but very trebly in toe position.

mr_hankey · March 17th, 2007, 08:56 AM

I'm using a Vox V847, which IMO has a better sweep than the Dunlop wah's. I've done a few mods to it (can't remember which ones); and I will be adding an output buffer sometime, to make it work before my fuzz.

nvosmeier · March 18th, 2007, 07:42 PM

i like the fulltone clyde the best. better than my '75 cry baby

Axis29 · March 19th, 2007, 08:42 AM

I use a Morley. I have an old Crybabay. The one advantage the crybaby has is that you can set it at one particular spot and use that tone... The big advantage the Morley has is that it's optical, not mechanical. NO scratchy pots... ask me why I bought the Morley! LOL

I love my Morley, the Crybaby was always nosiey... maybe they've improved that? The Crybaby sounded good, except for the scratchiness.

Either way, Wah's are fun!

mr_hankey · April 30th, 2007, 01:54 PM

I'm not a big fan of the Cry Babies.
I used to own a GCB-95, which definitely wasn't worth the money. Bad sweep, and shrill highs.

TBlewz · September 2nd, 2007, 02:07 PM

I like 'em all! A multitude of flavors of good. I currently use the VOX V848 Clyde McCoy but that is always subject to change. We are definitely living in the golden age of Amps, Guitars and Pedals! :D

Rick C.

JKjr · June 11th, 2008, 07:40 PM

Got a few wahs; an old crybaby with a Torres kit that sounds much better than stock, a reissue Vox that I sent to TONEMAN (Don Butler) that really nabs that vintage vibe but cost a bit. Had a Morley that I couldn't keep running.
Since then I've heard a couple of TEESE wahs...they are without a doubt the best I have ever heard. This guy has cracked the code IMHO. Wish I'd never spent a dime on the others. Live and Learn.

StratDen · June 12th, 2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nvosmeier

i like the fulltone clyde the best. better than my '75 cry baby

+1 On the Fulltone Clyde (Deluxe). But I am curious if anyone has experimented with any Autowahs?

imwjl · June 13th, 2008, 09:37 AM

I am pretty sure mine is the Q95 (model with a few tone adjustments if Q95 is not right).

I am perfectly happy with it and didn't spend more because by time logged most of my playing is either acoustic or practice mode where it's often my Micro Cube and computer instead of my black faced amp and pedals on the floor.

I have been very pleased with Dunlop support and they have true bypass pedals that don't break the bank and US made.

People gave me pressure to buy more expensive boutique makes, but I just could not do it when it's not part of my professional life. I probably got my 3 Dunlops (analog delay, distortion, wah) for what one boutique pedal costs and it seemed it was a case of diminishing returns when I compared them to other pedals.

ToneMonkey · June 13th, 2008, 03:17 PM

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I probably got my 3 Dunlops (analog delay, distortion, wah) for what one boutique pedal costs and it seemed it was a case of diminishing returns when I compared them to other pedals.

Heretic!!!

Burn him! Burn him! Burn him!

StratDen · June 13th, 2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by imwjl

I am pretty sure mine is the Q95 (model with a few tone adjustments if Q95 is not right).

I am perfectly happy with it and didn't spend more because by time logged most of my playing is either acoustic or practice mode where it's often my Micro Cube and computer instead of my black faced amp and pedals on the floor.

I have been very pleased with Dunlop support and they have true bypass pedals that don't break the bank and US made.

People gave me pressure to buy more expensive boutique makes, but I just could not do it when it's not part of my professional life. I probably got my 3 Dunlops (analog delay, distortion, wah) for what one boutique pedal costs and it seemed it was a case of diminishing returns when I compared them to other pedals.

Nothing wrong at all going the way you went. I think for me I was grabbed by the instantly good feel, tone and quality build when sticking with the Fulltone. Another factor was I was given a decent amount of time to try them at the store on several different amps. It was this that has made me shun many other options.

For Father's Day my wife and kids asked me to write a list a 5 pedals I would like. I put down 3 Fulltones, a Boss, and a MXR. I'll have to wait and see which one model they pick, but between you and me, I am hoping it's one of the Fulltones...