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Old May 20th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Chinese-made Proco Rat 2

I hate my Proco Rat. It sounds nothing like the samples on their website. It certainly doesn't fit the descriptions that made me buy it in the first place.

It was recently made in China. I read on the interweb that they ain't what they used to be.

Does anyone have any suggestions to improve the tone? I can't return it as I tried the Reutz mod and believe me that made it even worse.
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Sell it on Ebay and hype up the mod. Then keep looking. I think most folks go through dozens of different distortion pedals looking for "the one." Good luck.
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Old June 9th, 2008, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just got my first one a few days ago, but wasn't as disappointed (maybe because I didn't have a vintage one to compare it to). It's a fairly "vintage-style" circuit (kind of primitive, low parts count), and from researching the subject on the Internet, it seems that only a few components have changed through the years-- mainly, they don't use the LM308(?) op-amp because it's now rare and expensive (tho available at http://www.smallbearelec.com/home.html), a few resistor values may be different, and the Turbo Rat uses Germanium diodes... but it's still basically the same thing (I think).

The build quality isn't too bad-- the switch is kinda funky with its bare input and output leads though. My main complaint was that it was impossible to get the knobs off without destroying the pots-- they were on split shaft pots, but very, very tight.

I was looking for a box that had more extremes than a Tubescreamer-style overdrive, and the Rat 2 has that. It can do an articulate OD at the barely-on end of the gain pot. At the other extreme is a super flubby fuzz. In between you can get some really harsh and loud lead tones. Basically though, it's unruly: I wasn't fond of the fact that the controls seemed to interact with each other (changing gain and volume changed the tone) so it took a lot of tweaking to dial in a sound. On the other hand, changing the guitar's output volume has a big impact on the distortion level ("cleaned up nicely").

I think the state of distortion effects has come a long way since that circuit was designed...

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Sell it on Ebay and hype up the mod. Then keep looking. I think most folks go through dozens of different distortion pedals looking for "the one." Good luck.
+1. Start bidding low, somebody will probably want to try it...
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I was looking for a box that had more extremes than a Tubescreamer-style overdrive, ...

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I understand the Maxon OD-9 is a hot rodded version of the Tubescreamer. And didn't Maxon actually build the original Tubescreamers from the early 80's?
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 12:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The problem with most video demos is that they're probably done with gear that is not the same as the listener's gear.

I've seen some demos done in nice rooms with really expensive mics that go to really nice boards and then get mucked around with in ProTools to sound stellar. So never take internet demos 100% to heart.

Best thing to do always is to test it yourself and if you don't have a chance to do so ask someone with similar gear to yours to tell you what they think.
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