I just don't understand

lesray · February 5th, 2010, 06:10 AM

HELP ,
my pal 2 weeks ago gave me cubase he has never used and as i have no PC based recording under my belt i thought i would have a go. My prob is that when i record a backing track then take it back to the start and then try to record a guitar part. when i play it back it has recorded the guitar part ( and the backing track again ) is this normal or how can i correct the problem i have. i also have latency issues but i think i can sort that one no probs.or will this just be another 3 months messing about without playing. god knows time is not on my side.lol

Offshore Angler · February 6th, 2010, 04:34 AM

Both on the same track? Or are you playing back both tracks together?

Goodkat · February 6th, 2010, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lesray

... is this normal or how can i correct the problem i have ...

Hey Lesray.

This behavior is normal. You can record several clips on one track but only one clip is playing at any given time which means that you need two tracks: one for the rhythm and one for the lead. Perhaps even more (?) but certainly not just one.

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Originally Posted by lesray

... i also have latency issues but i think i can sort that one no probs.or will this just be another 3 months messing about without playing. god knows time is not on my side.lol

So ... have you sorted out those latency problems (and BTW, what audio interface are you using)?

lesray · February 6th, 2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Offshore Angler

Both on the same track? Or are you playing back both tracks together?

HI, Thanks for the reply Offshore Been semi pro for 30 years you'd think i would know better Anyway; backing track recorded track 1, guitar part recorded track 2 . On listening back ( with the latency problems) i can hear that the backing has recorded along with the guitar to track to track2. Hav'nt had a chance to correct the latency problems been busy this last 2 days, i may get to it on Monday. Hi Goodkat Don't understand what you mean fully by Audio interface but i will try (don't laugh) cubase SX3 , on board sound unless my graphics card has any ? is any of this helpful ? thanks guys.

Ray

Goodkat · February 6th, 2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lesray

... Don't understand what you mean fully by Audio interface ...

Sound card.

lesray · February 6th, 2010, 01:42 PM

thanks Goodkat just Me and my motherboard !!! and it's an old PC about 4 years old

Goodkat · February 6th, 2010, 01:51 PM

In that case you should probably try asio4all drivers.

lesray · February 6th, 2010, 02:13 PM

already downloaded but how do i install or use it

Goodkat · February 6th, 2010, 03:32 PM

Sorry man, I have never used those drivers myself and I wouldn't feel right telling you something I don't know about (I've been using a sound card with dedicated ASIO drivers for several years).

tonyw · February 6th, 2010, 04:32 PM

Latency problems are probably the audio card and if its just a standard PC card this could be the case.

I have been using one of these since they first hit the market years ago and its a great card at a great price. I use a 16 channel desk in front of it and mix my signal input before i record.
Audiophile2496

Goodkat · February 7th, 2010, 01:44 AM

I'll chime in and say that the card I've been using is EMU 0404 PCI. I am very pleased with it.

johnreardon · February 7th, 2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lesray

HI, Thanks for the reply Offshore Been semi pro for 30 years you'd think i would know better Anyway; backing track recorded track 1, guitar part recorded track 2 . On listening back ( with the latency problems) i can hear that the backing has recorded along with the guitar to track to track2. Hav'nt had a chance to correct the latency problems been busy this last 2 days, i may get to it on Monday. Hi Goodkat Don't understand what you mean fully by Audio interface but i will try (don't laugh) cubase SX3 , on board sound unless my graphics card has any ? is any of this helpful ? thanks guys.

Ray

I haven't got Cubase. however, on my Guitar Tracks Pro3, there is a drop down list on each track to choose if you want to record. The default, if I remember right was record. So each time I build up a track, I just select which tracks I want to record. The rest, if I want are just playing in the background.

Try going through any setup parameters.

lesray · February 8th, 2010, 08:50 AM

right i think iv'e got this now i need a new audio card a guitar to usb cable and some amp modeling software and some recording software then im good to go. but will i beable to use my roland GP100into thi audio cable?.

bowhunter · February 8th, 2010, 08:51 PM

You can try this, for play back and latency an audio interface would be the answer, you use this as your soundcard or asio driver, cubase software is alot for any pc soundcard so I use and external interface to run the sound and playback through,, Here` a video that may help!

YouTube - Cubase 4 Tutorial: Recording Audio...

BeowulfKingsley · February 24th, 2010, 11:59 PM

If you're just recording yourself, a good soundcard choice might be the M-Audio Ozone. It works into a USB port, and it has an input for guitar, a mic input, a decent preamp (another important thing to have for recording!), and to top it off a small keyboard you can use for MIDI sequencing and playing virtual keyboards, very handy. I have one at my home studio and it works and sounds excellent, no problems. I see them used all the time under $100.

Donovan · February 25th, 2010, 09:29 AM

You are always going to have latency as long as you are using software. The more software sends and returns you use, the worse it s going to be. That's why using hardware monitoring is the best way to go when you're recording new tracks. Your software may have driver latency correction, which while not a correction for during recording, moves the recorded sound in line with the other track after the fact. This usually requires a 1-time calibration, but in the end it does not matter because all of latency problems can be taken care of in the editing/mixing stages.

lesray · February 25th, 2010, 11:36 AM

iv'e just got an E-MU 0404 Digital Audio Interface will i beable toplug my GP100 into this?.

Goodkat · February 25th, 2010, 11:40 AM

Yes you will be able to plug it in (I'm experiencing a strange deja-vu at this moment

).

BTW, congrats on your new card.

lesray · February 25th, 2010, 11:54 AM

yea i know sorry !! ,right pandora PXR4 is now on its way to a new home . I knew you would come to my rescue thanks.

Offshore Angler · February 28th, 2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Donovan

You are always going to have latency as long as you are using software. The more software sends and returns you use, the worse it s going to be. That's why using hardware monitoring is the best way to go when you're recording new tracks. Your software may have driver latency correction, which while not a correction for during recording, moves the recorded sound in line with the other track after the fact. This usually requires a 1-time calibration, but in the end it does not matter because all of latency problems can be taken care of in the editing/mixing stages.

I don't agree. Modern DAW software is "forward looking" and more often than not, the latency comes from hardware. The solution is a world clock on you system. That puts everything in synch.