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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Neck and Bridge pickups together

Is there a way to wire the Strat switch so you can get both Bridge and Neck pickup at the same time ala mid position on a Tele ?

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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not a stock 5-way. But you can pick up a Super switch and do it. These are installed in the CP50's strats. This method looses one other position however.

A better option is to get a push-pull pot and wire it so you can turn the bridge pickup on in any switch position.

I am seriously contemplating changin my CP50's strat to this configuration. I like the bridge and neck pickups on together, but miss the fat quack of the middle and neck pickups together.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Check out Deaf eddie's site for a ton of wiring schemes.....

http://www.deaf-eddie.net/drawings/s...all-series.jpg

I have a couple of strats with the blender wiring like this.........sounds so good that I am making all of them like this eventually!

http://www.fralinpickups.com/images/blendschem2.jpg

You do need a blender pot (no load) though in place of the lower tone control. You can find those here..........

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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was gonna say blender as well. That way can blend just a little of the neck in or all of it. Or none of it. You can also have all three pups with this too.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Which position is usually lost?
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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^^ If it's done via the switch, you'll lose a position. Which one? Well, whichever configuration you choose to eliminate, in favor of wiring this one in it's place.

If it's with a Blend pot, you have no such problem. you would best wire the first tone as a master, though, because the blend pot replaces the lower tone pot
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Thanks, So with the blender the top tone control works for all three pickup and the lower tone/ blender blends in the Bridge pickup plus whatever other pickup is on the selector switch ?
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You do need a blender pot (no load) though in place of the lower tone control. You can find those here..........

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You can do blending with just a Fender no-load pot? I am not doubting you, I just didn't realize it could be done with one of those, I thought there was a specific pot for it. Hmm, I just happen to have a few of the Fender no-loads around right now waiting to go in my Strats, I may have to give this a try and see how it works.

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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yep. But you have to purposely wire the top tone control to affect all pickups.

Some strats (say, MIM standard) have: Master Volume, Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), and
Tone 2. (Middle Pickup).

You'd have to send the M and B pickups to that tone#1 pot in addition to adding the blended.
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Old April 1st, 2009, 04:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Buy a 250k pushpull pot you can use it for any pot you can find the wiring diagram on dimarzio's web site or rothstein guitars. I use it on one of my strats . I'm very happy with it
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Old April 1st, 2009, 04:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i started a thred asking same question got some good advice and diagrams of other members here

http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stra...ions-help.html
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Old April 1st, 2009, 05:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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To the original poster, PM me with your address and I will send you my blender set up(switch, pots, & cap wired and ready to go) its only months old in my partscaster...Ive tried Keystones and now Tex-Mex in there, maybe something with a hotter bridge pup would work better for me...but none the less Im over it and ready to go back to more standard Strat wiring.
In another forum, before doing the mod myself, Id read a gentleman refer to it as "it sounds much better on paper"...and I find this best describes it, even though others may disagree(they dont have to play my guitar)...

...so its free to the original poster(if you want it, just PM me) and this will give me the motivation to get the ball rollin on my project.

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Old April 2nd, 2009, 05:53 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 06:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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http://www.guitar-mod.com/wiring/neck_on_howto.gif
I TRIED TO GET THIS LINK TO WORK FOR YOU BUT HERES THE ADDRESS.
JUST WIRE THE POT SIDE AS NORMAL POT .
FOLLOW WIRING DIAGRAM TO WIRE SWITCH NOW YOU HAVE 7 POSITIONS.
PULL UP POT WHEN ON POS. 1 NOW NECK AND BRIDGE ARE ON MOVE TO 2 NOW ALL PUPS ARE ON. PUSH SWITCH DOWN AND YOU'RE BACK TO NORMAL.IT TRULEY WORKS GREAT. HOPE THIS HELPED

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I have a Player's Deluxe Strat. This model is stock with a push button just between the two tone knobs which adds the bridge pup to the neck and neck-mid positions.

The David Gilmour Signature CS model has a recessed micro-switch that does the opposite and adds the neck pup when flipped.

Here's an ebay posting of the Gilmour switch kit:
David Gilmour Black Strat Recessed Toggle Switch Mount - eBay (item 280325367127 end time Apr-20-09 19:34:02 PDT)
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Blender Pot wiring diagram for neck pickup.


The Classic 50s Player Strat is wired with a 5-way Super Switch. Sadly, Fender does not share the schematic for this online. However, I will......


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Old April 2nd, 2009, 07:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The David Gilmour Signature CS model has a recessed micro-switch that does the opposite and adds the neck pup when flipped.

Here's an ebay posting of the Gilmour switch kit:
David Gilmour Black Strat Recessed Toggle Switch Mount - eBay (item 280325367127 end time Apr-20-09 19:34:02 PDT)
Well if I only knew there was a kit!



I did this on my own at Home Depot and ACME. Ran me half as much and it's a little better constructed. But nice to see.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 07:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I did the Gilmour type switch too.









I fabbed my own bracket but if your interested in this type of setup I found a great source for the switch & mounting bracket.

Item #4022 - Custom Stainless Steel Recessed Toggle Switch Mounting Bracket & SPST Toggle Switch for Fender Stratocaster Guitar
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 04:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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This is how I did it: MyFolder.se/myspace/ - The Seven Sound Mod for the Fender® Highway One™ Stratocaster®

This setup suits me fine. It changes out position 2 and 4 to Bridge-Neck and Bridge-Mid-Neck keeping the 1, 3, 5 positions intact. Also includes a well defined tone control layout.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 04:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re-Neck and Bridge pickups together

I have installed a 3 way rotary switch on my 62 Strat re-issue.
The top tone control is wired to all 3 pickups i e a master tone control.
The bottom tone control has been removed and replaced with a 3 way rotary switch.
1 Fully anticlockwise as - normal Strat.
2 Middle position - Adds Bridge pickup to 5 way switch.
3 Fully clockwise - Adds Bridge and Middle pickups as a series Humbucker to a 5 way switch.
The best bit about this modification is with the Volume and Tone knobs,it looks like a normal Strat and no one knows the difference until you start using the rotary switch. I've played many a gig when other guitarists try to work out how I can get my Strat to sound like a Tele or how my Strat pickups sound like Humbuckers.
Hope this information helps.
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