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November 5th, 2009, 09:52 PM
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clapton vs green
hi guys there was a g8 programe on english freeview last night about the blues how us brits nicked it from the american blues men then sold it you guys back reworked it also talked about clapton,s early stuff with the yardbirds the bluesbreakers and cream then it went on to talk about peter greeen from fleetwood mac and claimed he was a better blues player than clapton untill he went nuts from LSD so my question is do you think that statment is true was he better than clapton back then
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November 5th, 2009, 09:54 PM
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Thats tough, almost unfair. They are both great blues players, green had a more distinctive style, and tone, especially as Clapton eased off of Gibsons after Cream... Ill go with Clapton though
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November 5th, 2009, 10:03 PM
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Peter started losing it due to LSD and it was a real shame because he could have been anything. I dont like comparing guitar players, annoys me for some reason. They each played with their own passion. Peter was back then a totally different kettle to Clapton, its like a who was better Syd Barrett or David Gilmour in some respects as in we will never know how great Barrett may have become if he hadnt lost it on the acid.
I have 2 Peter Green albums here from his come back and its the 1st one i think its "In The Sky" which i thought this guys still got it then only to realise its Snowy White on guitar helping Peter out.
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November 5th, 2009, 10:09 PM
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I've been listening to both lately on the early John Mayall London Blues compilation ('64-'69) From those years, I'd pick Green. Do I think Green was a better player when they both were young ? No, I just prefer his stuff with Mayall.
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November 5th, 2009, 10:20 PM
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Here is a series on youtube on Green
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November 5th, 2009, 10:25 PM
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That's a pretty great documentary, worth watching for sure.
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November 5th, 2009, 10:40 PM
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Taylor blew them both away , so you cares any how!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 5th, 2009, 10:44 PM
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Hugh thanks for posting the video, I can't stop watching it.
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Woah...what was that? lol. Do you see the guy in the background playing a drawer?
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November 5th, 2009, 10:46 PM
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I agree, arguing about "who's better" is a fool's mission. It's all about what each guy heard in his right brain, & how each one's left brain sent the message to the fingers.
I do recall Mick Fleetwood telling the story of the graffiti saying, "Clapton is God" being followed by people writing "Peter Green is greater than God" however... 
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November 6th, 2009, 12:55 AM
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Taylor blew them both away , so you cares any how!!!!!!!!!!!
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lol
I've often wondered what the Stones would have been if Roy Buchanan said "yes".
If we gotta go ot, this guy rules the roost imho.
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November 6th, 2009, 02:10 AM
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wasnt there a clapton vs. bloomfield? or beck or taylor. just like evh vs. randy rhoads.
each one has his own voice and tone, style.
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November 6th, 2009, 02:16 AM
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Stones tried to get Rory Gallagher as well.
My mate Barry McCabe sometimes shares the stage with Mick Taylor.
Barry McCabe
I have lots of Roy Buchanans work only second to Rory Gallagher
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November 6th, 2009, 12:44 PM
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Clapton doesn't get the credit he deserves because he alone took Blues guitar playing, cleaned it up, and put energy into it. Peter Green came along a little later, following Clapton's lead. I've always loved both their playing, and again I agree, "who is better", is a worthless exercise. It is very sad that for many years Green was "out of it"! He was an extremely tasteful player at that time, and its good to see he's back doing what he does best. Seeing as everyone's posting videos, heres my favourite Clapton tone, with EC Strat and Soldano Amps, even though he breaks a string in the middle of the solo. The other guitarist is Phil Palmer btw.
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November 6th, 2009, 12:55 PM
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that Peter Green Docu was pretty cool, watched the first 8 parts last night, gonna try and catch the last 4-5 parts tonight. His playing was good but what really got my attention was his voice. He was a great blues singer.
I'd really never heard of him. *ducks thrown objects*
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November 6th, 2009, 03:19 PM
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[quote=Hugh;119097]lol
I've often wondered what the Stones would have been if Roy Buchanan said "yes".
If we gotta go ot, this guy rules the roost imho.
I never knew about Roy.
WOW
That is all.
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November 6th, 2009, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
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that Peter Green Docu was pretty cool, watched the first 8 parts last night, gonna try and catch the last 4-5 parts tonight. His playing was good but what really got my attention was his voice. He was a great blues singer.
I'd really never heard of him. *ducks thrown objects*
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2 bands of the time were Chicken Shack and Fleetwood Mac, Chicken Shack had a lovely singer piano player by the name of Christine Perfect who later became known as Christine McVie. I have everything Chicken Shack and early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green released and there's some amazing blues on these albums.
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November 6th, 2009, 04:11 PM
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2...early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green released and there's some amazing blues on these albums.
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Yes, there is some awesome blues on the first fleetwood mac albums. I never really looked into it becasue I just thought it would sound like the fleetwood mac I had heard post green, but once I found the early stuff I was blown away. Good stuff
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November 6th, 2009, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
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2 bands of the time were Chicken Shack and Fleetwood Mac, Chicken Shack had a lovely singer piano player by the name of Christine Perfect who later became known as Christine McVie. I have everything Chicken Shack and early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green released and there's some amazing blues on these albums.
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Chicken Shack's Stan Webb is one amazing blues player. 
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November 6th, 2009, 07:46 PM
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I like Clapton and I dont even know Green so I guess I pick Clapton
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November 6th, 2009, 07:48 PM
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November 7th, 2009, 10:09 PM
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can't do it as well as Etta though
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November 8th, 2009, 05:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tready
hi guys there was a g8 programe on english freeview last night about the blues how us brits nicked it from the american blues men then sold it you guys back reworked it also talked about clapton,s early stuff with the yardbirds the bluesbreakers and cream then it went on to talk about peter greeen from fleetwood mac and claimed he was a better blues player than clapton untill he went nuts from LSD so my question is do you think that statment is true was he better than clapton back then
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IMO Clapton took a while to mature... he was strongly influenced by Muddy Waters and Buddy Guy, and it shows in his early recordings.
Somehow, Pete Green seemed, like Hendrix, to show up fully formed. Those guys seem to be the ones that burn out early...
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November 8th, 2009, 05:58 AM
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well after watching the documentry about peter green i started listening to some of his stuff from back in the day and i agree he was an excellent blues player, i only really new him as the guy who wrote played albertross, as a 13year old i remember hearing that song and thinking wow i must learn it which i did, but being british you always think of clapton as the man the best blues player, but having listened to greens stuff id have to say i think his playing was better than claptons but wether he could have kept up with clapton as he got better is something we will never no, i think greens voice is was better than claptons but all that said clapton is still the best white blues player ever in my opinion,i no some of you will think no way but thats just my opinion lol
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November 8th, 2009, 06:04 AM
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I also just watched the Green documentary (thanks Hugh) and it is well worth the watch. Sad story but I agree that he was a fully formed player and those guys just seem to have problems later on because of their genius. Glad is making somewhat of a recovery.
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