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Old July 10th, 2010, 08:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What are the frets on my new Classic 50s series strat?

I see mention of the 6105 frets on various models.....is this what I have on this model...or what would they be. Specs say Vintage style, whatever that means.

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Old July 10th, 2010, 10:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This might help muddy the waters?

The Warmoth site lists 6230 fret wire as "vintage Fender" and 6150 as "modern Fender".

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However, I recall reading/hearing that vintage style frets were "medium jumbo" which would be the 6130 wire.
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Old July 10th, 2010, 10:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This might help muddy the waters?

The Warmoth site lists 6230 fret wire as "vintage Fender" and 6150 as "modern Fender".

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However, I recall reading/hearing that vintage style frets were "medium jumbo" which would be the 6130 wire.
6150 Frets are tall frets I have them on my John Mayer strat. Also Vintage sized frets are not Medium Jumbos, they are much smaller. The Classic 50s should have vintage sized frets
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6150 Frets are tall frets I have them on my John Mayer strat. Also Vintage sized frets are not Medium Jumbos, they are much smaller. The Classic 50s should have vintage sized frets
6150's make sense on a JM Sig since it's a "modern Fender". I think Brazil is looking to actually quantify "vintage sized".

Here's the guide from Fender if it helps:

* 6230: The smallest fret wire found on older Fender necks (.078" x .043").
* 6150: Vintage jumbo. Much wider but not as tall as 6230 (.102" x .042").
* 6105: Modern narrow and tall; currently very popular (.090" x .055").
* 6100: Jumbo. The largest fret wire available (.110" x .055").
* 6130: Medium jumbo (.106" x .036").

http://www.fender.com/news/index.php...ay_article=424
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Old July 10th, 2010, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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FRET-6230
Dunlop 6230 Accu-Fret® fretwire. The 6230 series is a vintage-sized wire as used on early Fender® models. Measures .043" tall and .078" wide. 18% nickel/silver hard alloy. (24) 2-5/8" long pieces.

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Actually I meant 6105s are on the Mayer not 6150, My bad
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Old July 11th, 2010, 04:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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V59 ; ....6230..that's the one. Just measured it up, a match.
Got a little education there....thanks Soooo much for all the replys.
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Fender News:Fret Sizes
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classic 50s Fret Size: Vintage Style Frets .080" X .043" Small vintage Fender Size = 6230 yup... would seem to add up.

6230
.080" x .043"
small wire for a more vintage feel

6230SS
.080" x .043"
6230 available in Stainless Steel

6130
.106" x .036"
low and wide fret for lots of fingerboard feel

6105
.090" x .055"
tall and narrow - a great all-purpose fret
6105SS
.090" x .055"
6105 available in Stainless Steel

6125
.095" x .047"
a new size for the player that wants something in between 6105 & 6150

6150
.104" x .047"
true jumbo fret for rock and bass players
6150SS
.104" x .047"
6150 available in Stainless Steel

6100
.110" x .057"
huge fret wire for those who want a scalloped feel
6100SS
.110" x .057"
6100 available in Stainless Steel

6000
.118" x .058"
railroad ties - the largest size fret available
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Ah....6230 in Stainless....good to know .

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Old July 11th, 2010, 06:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Not to be the guy, but stainless is quite expensive to use and isnt really what a vintage styled guitar would use. How ever 6230 would be the closest fret size to them if not exact.
Most people charge alot more for stainless frets and because of their hardness it sometimes ruins their tools.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 07:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I know a few luthiers who refuse to work on anything with stainless because of it's hardness! I have a relic partscaster with huge frets ( .100 X .056). I guess they would be considered jumbo and I like them a lot.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 08:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Not to be the guy, but stainless is quite expensive to use...
Last I checked I think Warmoth only wanted $20 extra for stainless.

Yes, they might cost more to be re-fretted someday... for your grandkids.
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