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Old February 27th, 2009, 09:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Korean made stratocaster

Hey all, a forum newbie here. I own a 2002 1960 relic and love it.
However, I just purchased a made in Korea stratocaster at a local pawn shop for 100.00 bucks, no case, in pretty decent shape. Here's where I'm confused.
On the headstock it says Fender in silver with a black outline, on the end where it usually would say original contour body it says squier series.
It has fender stamped on the bridge saddles.
The tuners are smooth and stay in tune great, although the don't look like the ping style to me, but not like the MIM either.
The headstock says made in Korea and has a CN serial number.
The guitar plays incredible, is heavy as heck and has great vintage tone.
I really like it. Were all these made this well, or did I happen across a lucky one? I wasn't in the market for another strat, but I couldn't refuse this one as it's really a nice guitar. It looks very similar to Yngwie's strat but with a rosewood neck. Anyone know anything about this guitar, as I can't find any info on the web.

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Old February 27th, 2009, 09:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Go to Fender forums at Fender.com and look for Squier posts. You can ask there. I have a Squier Affinity Strat and I lucked out and got a good one.As far as I know the Korean And Japanese Squiers were the best produced so far. Enjoy and be well! Alan
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Old February 27th, 2009, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I can't identify it necessarily by what you've said but I do like to vouch for (reasonably recent) MIK Fenders/Squiers as being not bad at all for the money (especially when practically free as you've gotten it for). Many of them are made by Cort which has come a long way from the firewood of the 80's, it's a pretty modern plant now from what I understand. Depending on how old it is it could be made from basswood, but usually "heavy as heck" and "made from basswood" don't go together!

I got a great deal on a Fender Koa Strat last year (less than half price brand new) which is MIK, and my only complaint is the tuners, they could be better, but it sounds good and looks & feels fantastic - it's VERY light too.

Post some pics of your axe and that may certainly help ID it, there are some walking encyclopaedias of all-guitars-with-the-word-Fender-anywhere-on-them around here...
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Old February 27th, 2009, 10:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The Korean Strat That I used to have had a Plywood body, it's pretty easy to tell if take the neck off and look at the neck pocket.
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Old February 27th, 2009, 10:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have an identical story. Back in 96 I bought a Korean made Fender with the same silver and black logo at a pawn shop for $100. That was my main electric until just few months ago, it played awesome and was loved for 13 years. It’s a great find.

I found a link referring to MIM Fender logo made with higher grade wood which earned it the Fender logo. It also had very cheap hardware, which explains the Squire logo on the bulb. I yours doesn't have a small black “Squire” on the bulb of the headstock, I’d assume somebody removed it. That’s all I could find, and I assume the Korean ones are similar.

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Between 1994-1996 (S/N will start with MN4-MN6), there were some Mexican Standard Strats made that had a very small 'Squier Series' decal on the ball of the headstock These are not to be confused with the 'Squier' Stratocaster model line! Although very similar to real Mexican Standard Strats, there are some subtle differences. These models were made using the same bodies and necks as the Mexican Standard version but they used the cheaper Squier hardware (tuners and bridges). The single-coil ceramic pickups appear to be the same as the Mexican Standards but, since they used a hodgepodge of parts on these, it is not a guarantee. The volume potentiometer can be 500K ohm vs the typical 250K. These guitars do not have the typical 'Squier' decal in large letters, they have a small 'Squier Series' decal on the ball of the headstock, right in the front. Many, if not most, previous owners have found a way to remove this decal (out of vanity?) but there are still many easily identifiable traits. The easiest way to tell is by looking at the 'Fender' logo decal on the front of the headstock. The following picture show a standard Mexican 'Fender' logo decal. Notice how it is a silver-ish (or gold-ish) color with a dark outline.
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(NOTE: There were some 'Squier Series' decal Strats made in Korea in the '90's also but there is virtually no information about them. They do not have the solid dark 'Fender' logo but do have the 'Squier Series' decal. They say 'Made in Korea' on the front of the headstock. I have no experience with these however and cannot comment on their quality, but have heard good reports from some owners.)
Anyway, I didn’t see ever getting rid of that guitar. I’m older now with more money and my sister’s guitar was recently stolen. SAS set in and I bought a MIA and gave her my old Fender\Squire guitar. Enjoy yours.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have a 1993 Fender Strat Squier Series...been searching around online a lot lately and can't find too much info about them. My suspicion is that mine is plywood, but it still sounds very good. The body size seems almost identical, if not a tad thicker/bulkier than my 2008 MIM Fender Strat. The tuners are junk on mine though, and I'm replacing them soon...just replaced the pickups as well.

Let me know if you hear anything...I'm curious too.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 04:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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those are pretty nice squiers for 100$ if its structual sound you did good i have owned baout 10 squiers and next to japan ones korea squiers have been second best close to india ones
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Old February 28th, 2009, 06:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks

Thanks all, some very interesting info here.
I believe from some research that it is a 1992 MIK from the cort factory.
It is a plywood body though, and is in fact much thicker than my CS relic.
I do however like the clean strat sound better than my CS. The neck radius seems very flat also compared to the relic. I recently switched from Gibbys to the fender's because of the single coils, and I do like the flatter radius.
Anyway, it's a keeper as I find myself playing it most of the time now and I don't have to constantly keep an eye on my CS when I'm out on a gig.
Thanks again.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 07:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Great find Sun - it's wonderful when you can enjoy something so much when you get it for such a good deal. Your own personal little 'treasure'

Welcome to the forums! Do we get a picture or 10 of this miracle guitar?
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Old February 28th, 2009, 08:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Sure, how do I post a pic? Sorry this is all new to me.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 08:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Here's a pick of the guitar at my last gig. I'll take some more when I get a chance, I added pics of my CS relic and my classic 60s also, as you can see I've got the fender bug. or is it GAS!!!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...storic/042.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t.../fender007.jpg
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Old February 28th, 2009, 08:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Lookin great! I'm a big burst fan myself...
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Old February 28th, 2009, 08:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm liking the off white color on the squier myself, it has some nice wear to it that doesn't show in the oics.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 08:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Orange, are the India mades really that good? what years did they make them?
My brother has an early 80s Japanese squier thats real nice.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 10:47 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You are correct in your thinking about it being around a 93. I remember when they came out, and liked the idea that they had the classic appearance with the vintage style bridge/tremolo and the FENDER name prominently on the headstock. I even have an old ad for them from a Fender Frontline magazine somewhere around here. I remember they were 199.99 at my local music store, and I wanted a red one. They ordered me one but it never came in so I bought a vintage white one just like yours off the showroom floor. It was indeed a laminate body, as I took it apart about a year later and shot it with sea foam green nitro and noticed the laminate for the first time when I had it apart. It wasn't the crappy "thin body" version of today, and laminate or not, it sounded great. I chipped it one day, got mad about it and sold it... Sometimes wish I still had it, as it was a great guitar, minus the usual terrible tin covered plastic tipped tuners... Back then i didn't realize i could have changed them out for about 25 bucks or I would have. I'd buy that one of yours from you if you ever want to upgrade to something else...
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Old February 28th, 2009, 10:48 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Nice score 7thSun and welcome to the forum

I have a '89 Korean Strat that's actually quite a nice guitar for the money, upgraded the electrics...pickups in mine were terrible!...it's got a plywood body like yours, but it sounds ok, i think the neck is a 12" radius as it's quite a bit flatter than my other Strats.
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Old March 1st, 2009, 11:47 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Jimi, do you know if these wer nitro or not, mine is cracking all over the front and back.
Not like my CS, its a real wierd type of checking maybe because of the laminate?
Heres a pic to show what I mean.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...picsamp004.jpg
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Old March 1st, 2009, 02:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I would have thought they are a poly finish - though i don't know for sure.

I don't think the plywood is the reason for the checking, i have a 07 Squier Tele Custom which has a Agathis body and poly finish - that thing has a dirty great crack in the finish - very similar to the cracks in your pic.

Hopefully someone more knowledgable will chime in and be able to answer better than i can.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 06:43 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I have a 1993 Korean Strat That was a damn good find. I didn't know much about the Korean model's before I bought this one of Craigslist, the previous owner scraped the "Squier Series" off of the bulb and I didn't notice until I was cleaning it up. I'm not too mad about it , it plays great, looks great and came with a little Roland Cube 15x in a package deal for $150 and he delivered it to my house. It came with upgraded Tuners (otherwise it is stock). I own USA and MIJ Strats and if you are on a budget grab one of these, I re-strung it , gave it a good set up and its is a great cheap Fender.



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Old January 19th, 2010, 08:11 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Here's my '93 Korean Fender/Squier Series Strat. (The black one on the left in the pic.) A Craigslist find for $100 with a hard case. A great guitar.

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