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Old April 20th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Great! Sounds like you understand how its supposed to work, and you are right... there should be no need to wind the tremolo arm in so tight that it balls up the stiff Fender spring. Now if I were you I'd go buy 11 more strats to use up those springs before you lose 'em.

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Old April 20th, 2009, 08:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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if I were you I'd go buy 11 more strats to use up those springs before you lose 'em.
yeah, let me go run that by the wife....especially since I've been unemployed for a month now. (thankfully, she's got a pretty good job - knock wood)
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Old April 20th, 2009, 09:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I guess "balled up" would be the wrong term...more like it kinked it to the side a bit to where it was stuck inside the trem arm hole. I didn't crank it down with undue torque, but I wanted to make sure all the threads were fully engaged. Maybe that was even too much. Anyhoooo, the Loc-tite worked for me, but as its been said so many times before...YMMV!!! Go with what works for you, but there's almost always another way.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 11:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Blue 242 Loc-tite has a fairly mild adhesive property...just enough so a bolt, or in this case a trem arm, won't unscrew/ flop around/ cause other untold aggravation. There are stronger levels of Loc-tite...obviously not recommended.
242 is a medium strength loctite, Im a helicopter mechanic and I use it regularly on high speed,critical rotating parts, it has WAY more adhesion then you may think. Its normal mode of removal is with heat.

My own personal opinion is there is absolutely no place on a guitar that any loctite should find a home.

Not trying to pick a fight here...
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Old April 21st, 2009, 01:20 AM   #25 (permalink)
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loctite is fine it binds to the threads,giving more resistance to the arm,its reccomended by many guitar techs and books,i just read about using it in an issue of guitarist magazine,remember we are not talking about tons of the stuff just a small amount
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Old April 21st, 2009, 10:13 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Jabs, I'm not trying to pick a fight,either. As a bicycle mechanic, I've used blue Loc-tite for applications where one would not want a threaded part to loosen due to vibration, but where one may periodically have to remove the part (say, crankarm bolts or bottom bracket fixed cup). It seemed it would work for my trem arm and, in fact, did....for me.

This is strictly my opinion I'm tossing out there. As with any opinion, one needs to make their own decision regarding validity or practicality.

So....friends?
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Old April 21st, 2009, 11:46 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I will speak for Jabs, dman and everyone else:
We are ALL friends....just trying to help one another out with what we each consider to be 'good' ideas.

We are STRAT people and thus, friends.
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Old April 21st, 2009, 12:31 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Amen! Well said!!
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Old April 21st, 2009, 12:45 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Nope guys, no issues here! Always friends!

Maybe im misunderstanding your use of this, if you want the arm to move then 242 is not going to do it for you, if your locking it in place then that will work. I assumed the topic was on the arm still being able to twist but just with friction.

The loctite that binds is not 242, 242 dries hard and chips off. There is a kind though that acts like the teflon tape idea would, stays soft and adds a bit of thickness to the threads but doesnt chip or dry hard, I cant remember the name right now but i will look.
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Old May 20th, 2010, 07:55 AM   #30 (permalink)
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By the way, I wouldn't recommend even the Fender springs. I bought a used Squier Pro Tone last year and put a trem arm spring in to cure the "floppy arm syndrome". I ended up with the same situation as Elementlax...the spring all balled up. To boot, I developed a weird smpathetic vibration on some notes coming from the bridge. I finally managed to dig out the spring and the vibration went away when I went to the Loc-tite trick. Was it the spring? Dunno, but both the spring and the vibration are gone now!
I use a little beeswax that I keep to lube neck screws in builds on the spring, it's sticky enough to help the spring stay put when the arm is out and keeps the vibrations down as well.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 01:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Guitar parts resource has the springs from fender..
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Old September 19th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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NEVER do the ball point pen spring thing.
the spring gets balled up, and its been stuck in my guitar for a couple months, cant get it out!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for the necro-post, I didn't want to start another thread.

I did what elementlax describes above.
Has this happened to anyone else and have they figured out how to get the blasted thing out?

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Old September 26th, 2013, 11:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'm missing the little spring that goes in the bridge for the tremolo arm (never had a trem guitar before so I don't even know what one looks like).

The area stores are out of stock.
What makes a good substitute for one?

(I did a search but didn't turn up anything)
I buy mine from ebay. Packet of 6 for just a few dollars. The correct Fender springs work well, arm stays in position and can be moved easily when you want to. New Am Strats come with a small silver sticky label over the trem arm hole to prevent the spring falling out. You remove it and fit the arm. I put the label back on if I take the arm out.
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