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April 8th, 2008, 09:58 AM
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Strat-Talker
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Michigan USA
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Guitar set up?
What exactly does a tech do when they set up a guitar?
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April 8th, 2008, 05:31 PM
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Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Setting the pickup height, re string the guitar, inotation(sp?), etc.
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May 29th, 2008, 11:58 AM
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Strat-O-Master
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Location: London Canada
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Depends on the tech. The guy I sometimes go to does the following:
New Strings
Sets relief
Adjusts action (if asked)
Intonates
Tightens all the screws and anything that can use a tight fit. This has in the past been very helpful when I didn't realize the input jack was loose and ready to fall out!!
Since I have too many guitars now, I am slowly learning the set-up procedure myself and it is actually quite rewarding. I have a Squier 51 which I practice on!!
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June 7th, 2008, 09:59 PM
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Here's some info from my files:
5 EASY STEPS TO SET UP YOUR GUITAR FOR OPTIMAL PLAYING
Here are five easy steps that you can follow to get the most out of your guitar. Before we begin, you are going to need some basic tools:
Set of automotive feeler gauges (.002 - .025)
6" ruler (with 1/32" and 1/64" increments)
Phillips screwdriver
Electronic tuner
Wire cutters
Peg winder
Light machine oil (3-in-1, toy locomotive, or gun oil)
Polish and Cloth
Capo
Step 1. Changing Your Strings:
Strings are the life's blood of your guitar. When your strings aren't in top form, neither is your guitar. In order for strings to provide the maximum performance, they should be changed on a regular basis. Strings that have lost their integrity (worn where the string is pressed against the fret) or have oxidized, rusted, or are dirty respond poorly. To see if you need to change your strings, run a finger underneath the string and feel for dirt, rust or flat spots. If you find any of these, you should change your strings. Always make sure to stretch your strings properly. After you have installed a new set and have them tuned to pitch, hold the strings at the first fret and hook your fingers under each string (one at a time) and tug lightly, moving your hand from the bridge to the neck. Re-tune and repeat several times.
Step 2. Making Bridge Adjustments and Setting Intonation:
There are numerous types of bridges, but one basic point that should be remembered; ensure that there is sufficient break angle of the strings over the saddles (at least 30o). Much of the remainder of bridge adjustments, as in the case of setting a floating tremolo, is determined by personal taste. At this point you can pre-set the basic intonation of your guitar, by taking your tape measure and measuring from the inside of the nut to the center of the 12th fret (the wire, not the fingerboard); Double that measurement to find the scale length of your guitar. Adjust the 1st string bridge saddle to this scale length, measuring from the inside of the nut to the center of the bridge saddle. Now, adjust the distance of the 2nd string saddle back from the 1st saddle, using the gauge of the 2nd string as a measurement (Example: If the 2nd string is .011" you would move the 2nd string back .011" from the 1st saddle). Move the 3rd back from the 2nd saddle, using the gauge of the 3rd string as a measurement. The 4th string saddle should be set parallel with the 2nd string saddle. Proceed with the 5th and 6th in the same method used for strings 2, and 3.
Step 3. Adjusting The Truss Rod:
The purpose of the truss rod is to counteract the tension placed on the neck by the strings. This tension can be affected by movement of the wood from environmental influences like temperature and humidity. To adjust your truss rod: check your tuning, then install a capo at the 1st fret and depress the 6th string at the last fret. With your feeler gauge, check the gap between the bottom of the string and the top of the 8th fret - the measurement should be approximately .010". Adjustment at headstock (Allen wrench): If neck is too concave, (the guitar in playing position, looking up the neck towards the keys) turn the truss-rod nut counter clock-wise. Too convex - clockwise. Adjustment at neck joint (Phillips screwdriver): If neck is too concave, turn the truss-rod nut clock-wise. Too convex-Counter clockwise. Check your tuning, and then check the gap again with the feeler gauge. In either case, if you meet excessive resistance or need for adjustment, or you're not comfortable with this adjustment, take your guitar to your authorized Service Center.
Step 4. Setting String Height:
Players with a light touch can get away with a lower action; others need higher action to avoid rattles. Check tuning. Using 6" ruler, measure distance between bottom of strings and top of the 17th fret. Adjust bridge saddles or if your saddles are preset, the bridge height adjustment screws, to approximately 4/64". Experiment with the height until the desired sound and feel is achieved.
Step 5. Adjusting Pickup Height:
Set too high, pickups can cause a myriad of inexplicable phenomena. (See WFTD Stratitis) Depress all of the strings at the last fret. Using 6" ruler, measure the distance from the bottom of the 1st and 6th strings to top of the pole piece. Adjust the distance with the two outside pickup mounting screws. The distance should be greatest at the 6th string - neck pickup position, and closest at the 1st string - bridge pickup position. The distance will vary according to the amount of magnetic pull of the pickup.
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June 7th, 2008, 10:34 PM
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Strat-O-Master
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I'd say Bob covered it pretty well there. It's always a good idea to maybe ask to watch the guitar being set-up to give you a foundation as well...
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June 7th, 2008, 11:49 PM
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Way to go Bob. Thanks a bunch. That's a good addition to the site and I appreciate it.
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June 10th, 2008, 07:06 AM
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Strat-O-Master
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Location: London Canada
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Good stuff Bob!
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June 11th, 2008, 12:22 PM
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Perhaps that should be a Tech Talk Sticky? 
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June 11th, 2008, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: DFW
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I strongly Recommend Dan Erlewine's book: http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Player-...3203208&sr=8-3
This thing is GREAT. I bought it long ago when I was far too poor to pay anyone anything to work on my guitar and did it all myself. This book is packed with so much great info and hints it's value far exceeds the $15 I paid for it 15 years ago. I'm sure it has saved me 30x that cost in setups and work since then.
Cheers.
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July 2nd, 2008, 09:32 AM
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Strat-O-Master
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Location: London Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmasin
I strongly Recommend Dan Erlewine's book: http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Player-...3203208&sr=8-3
This thing is GREAT. I bought it long ago when I was far too poor to pay anyone anything to work on my guitar and did it all myself. This book is packed with so much great info and hints it's value far exceeds the $15 I paid for it 15 years ago. I'm sure it has saved me 30x that cost in setups and work since then.
Cheers.
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I second any of Dan Erlewine's books.....they are very very good!
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July 12th, 2008, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southern Ontario
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The guy who does mine is Gandalf of the guitar. He files the nut, sets up the bridge saddles and intonation and string height and action. He adjusts the truss rod and sets the pickup height. As well he checks for any loose screws and bolts. On a rose wood board he oils the board and files any frets that need it. On a Strat I always have the trem flush and all of the springs pulled tight ala a hard tail. I do not use the trem bar.
I do get my money's worth.
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July 21st, 2008, 05:45 PM
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He files the nut? Do you mean he cleans it? If he does you're going to need a new after a year or two.
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July 21st, 2008, 05:51 PM
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"Filing the nut" implies that his tech checks the depth of the nut slots as part of a setup. There is absolutely no value to deepening the nut slots over time (unless your frets are wearing down just as fast, which is somewhat improbable). This is not often included as part of a regular setup.
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July 21st, 2008, 06:04 PM
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Filing the nut to me implies......filing the nut. You either file it or you don't. What term is used for actually filing it then?
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July 21st, 2008, 08:28 PM
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+3 on Erlewine's book. Great storehouse of information, fairly straightforward and easy to follow. Also, The Fender Stratocaster Handbook, a nice volume to have on hand for routine setup and maintenance.
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