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June 9th, 2008, 03:32 PM
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Guitar Neck
Okay, well this is a deciding factor for my new neck (last thing I need to choose next to pick-ups and new pots).
Does the shape of the head, which I take changes the length of the strings in a sense, effect the tone of the guitar?
Fore example, will a normal Strat style staggered line head have the same sound as a Gibson style 3 to each side?
Last thing, is it possible to put a 24fret neck on or will it put to much stress on the body and risk damage?
Agh, all I ever do is ask questions :( sorry.
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Jordan(Nutter)
Very offtopic:
Can I get your opinions on my signature? I'm slowly adding in more detail, sorry about this couldnt find an offtopic area to put this in -.-
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Last edited by Nutter; June 9th, 2008 at 04:16 PM.
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June 9th, 2008, 09:33 PM
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What I believe your getting at is the Guitar's scale which is from the Nut to the Saddles (Bridge).
The angle of the strings past the Nut (going towards the headstock) work, in part, to put the downward pressure of the strings into the Nut's grooves. Because of the distance the B and high E string travel past the nut, angle is lost so a String tree is used to compensate. Therefore, not the shape necessarily, but the angle of the headstock in relation to the neck is what is meaningful...
Is that a help?
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June 10th, 2008, 06:14 AM
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So I can have any shaped head without a change in tone? Only diffrences is if its angled or not. Correct if I understand you right?
And the diffrence is the pressure in the nut from the strings?
Yeah tooo many questions, I should start trying to help instead of asking 
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July 17th, 2008, 03:30 AM
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Hi, the shape of the head as far as I know affect to how easy is to bend the strings, the longest is the distance between the nut to the tuner the easier to bend. That's why a strat is easier to bend generally than a LP with same string gauge.
No change in tone that I know...
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July 17th, 2008, 05:53 AM
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Ah cool, thanks for helping me with that StratDen and xfsl 
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July 17th, 2008, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xfsl0001
That's why a strat is easier to bend generally than a LP with same string gauge.
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Actually, in my personal experience, I've found the opposite to be true. All other things being the same (tuning/pitch, string gauge, action), strats have been harder to bend than LPs. I think it's because the LPs have a shorter scale length than strats.
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July 18th, 2008, 02:58 AM
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jcwu,
In case the scale has the same length then the distance between nut and tuner is the factor that will decide which guitar is easier to bend. Of course if the scale in a LP is shorter then the strings do not need to be so tight...
I meant only in case that all factors are the same except the head.
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November 19th, 2008, 09:38 PM
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Just make sure the scale length of the body matches the scale length of the neck.
No change in tone due to headstock shape, but on Fender type necks the strings run straight thru the nut to the tuner - not so on Gibson types. That could be a tuning issue if you are using a trem.
24 fret neck: There will be no extra tension on the neck because the extra 2-3 frets are added to the neck down by the pickups. Just make sure you don't have a pickup in their way.
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November 27th, 2008, 08:13 AM
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If you bend(or as we really old guys call it, choke) the notes, angle from back of nut to machine can make some difference in ease. But, since the leading edge of the nut defines scale length, tone is not affected. And, yes, a shorter scale means less tension to get to pitch, and thus a softer action. The tone will not be quite as bright because of the reduced tension. String diameters follow the same laws of physics- thicker, more tension to bring to pitch.So, scale does define the personality of a particular guitar. Both together are the combined root of the inherent tone of the guitar. An historic note- SRV tuned down to E flat . Same as shortening scale as far as action. But, then realize that choice of a thicker string could cancel that. It is a truly subtle blend-perceiving the aural result is beyond many of us mere mortals regarding tone-most of will notice the feel. Pain in the butt for the rest of the instruments(non- guitars) but obviously worth the price to be even a minute part of Stevie.
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