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1964 Stratocaster

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by jward, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. jward

    jward New Member!

    Age:
    30
    3
    Nov 13, 2017
    Canada
    So I have a Fender Stratocaster and I know very little about them. I researched as much as I could and determined that I had a 1964 Stratocaster. But now I'm doubting it a little bit. There is no date on the neck or body that I can see but there is a plate with a serial number and a patent number. Can anyone tell me if this is authentic and if it is a 1964 Fender Stratocaster? I've seen some selling for $10,000-$15000 but don't know if this one is worth that...
     

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  2. john lavelle

    john lavelle Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    52
    Aug 25, 2012
    North Carolina
    I can't wait for the experts to chime in. But your strat is a beauty and I hope you have the real deal my friend!
     

  3. john lavelle

    john lavelle Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    52
    Aug 25, 2012
    North Carolina
    A quick glance of the 12th feet markers gives me concern. But others will know. They appear to be too wide apart.
     

  4. the dark sailor

    the dark sailor Strat-O-Master

    814
    Dec 18, 2008
    south jersey
    Everything about this guitar is 100% not legit.
    The neckplate stamp job is god awful, the neck is wrong all the way up and down from the headstock to the truss rod, body, electronics, not good.
     

  5. HankPym

    HankPym Strat-Talk Member

    60
    Sep 11, 2017
    USA
    Headstock looks wrong for a 64, but curious as to what you do have!

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  6. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London
    Looks like a lovely Strat and welcome to the forum!

    I've never seen a 1964 neck with that type of truss rod screw.
     
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  7. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    Sorry to say but that guitar was never built by Fender. The serial number is punched by an amateur, the numbers aren't in line or right size. The routing is terrible, the belly contours are finished solid to probably hide multiple body piece joint. The rosewood board isn't Brazilian and the truss rod hole is placed too low, the rod nut is wrong. The pots are asian made, trem block and bridge isn't Fender Pre CBS, the finishing of the sunburst is all wrong.


    The list is long. How much did you invest in this?
     
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  8. mad axe man

    mad axe man Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 23, 2016
    ontario canada
    hope you didn't pay too much for it
     

  9. jward

    jward New Member!

    Age:
    30
    3
    Nov 13, 2017
    Canada
    I paid nothing actually, just inherited from my dads collection. I wanted to bring it to a consignment shop in town but they didnt know very much and couldn’t give me any idea of what to price it at. Unfortunately there’s no place in my town in the way of high end guitar places. Sounds like it’s not worth much though...
     
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  10. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    Yeah sorry about that, at least you didn't loose any money!

    Take care
    Joel
     

  11. TheDudeMan

    TheDudeMan Strat-Talker

    Age:
    39
    225
    Sep 19, 2016
    The Crossroads

  12. jward

    jward New Member!

    Age:
    30
    3
    Nov 13, 2017
    Canada
    Do you think the neck or head stock is authentic though?
     

  13. Stratoholic

    Stratoholic Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 30, 2010
    somewhere
    No. The truss rod screw should not just be a single slot, it should look like a plus sign. The 12th fret markers by the early 60's were much much closer together, and it would of been a "Round Lam" finger board, sort of like a thick veneer, and would of been curved on the bottom too, not a "slab" board like that. Also the Headstock, that headstock shape didn't happen until 66, and that logo wouldn't of appeared until 68 (and it's not in the right place, or correct It's missing "With Synchronized Tremolo") And then those tuners, those are the sort you would of found on an early 90's Squier.
     
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  14. altar

    altar Strat-Talk Member

    71
    Oct 4, 2016
    USA

    No nothing on that guitar is authentic unfortunately.
     

  15. Inverness

    Inverness Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 24, 2013
    Salt Lake City
    Also looks like it might be a plywood body. The grain direction seems to shift in the route for the controls where it is slightly deeper.
     
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  16. ToneFidelity

    ToneFidelity Strat-Talk Member

    84
    Apr 17, 2017
    Quebec, Canada
    +1 what others said regarding authenticity. Man, those 12th Fret Dots are about to fell of the fretboard.
     
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  17. the dark sailor

    the dark sailor Strat-O-Master

    814
    Dec 18, 2008
    south jersey
    Why isn't anyone taking note on the bridge block? Take a closer look.
     
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  18. midwestfisherma

    midwestfisherma Strat-O-Master

    854
    Nov 27, 2011
    MI
    The pots look wrong for an authentic 1964 too.
     

  19. Highway Star

    Highway Star Strat-Talk Member

    Nothing on that guitar is even close to 1964. Not a single screw.
     
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  20. Ebidis

    Ebidis Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    51
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    yeah, unfortunately it is a fake fender. I have no clue where or when it was made, but I do know that it was not made by Fender.