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1997 Fender Lone Star American Standard Stratocaster

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by moparguy, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas
    8FB964B0-5A4D-4EEB-B18F-937F09AB530C.jpeg 9F96760A-F805-4254-B28F-5032BC41A914.jpeg 4DEC53F2-62AB-4072-AA95-7BC528BBC975.jpeg 1492A77A-0A54-4222-BF2A-06CA53B3B89D.jpeg 35D799B9-17AB-46AE-A721-81D806F80A86.jpeg Hello all! I need to ask someone about this guitar I bought. I think it is a 1997 Fender Lone Star American Standard. Gonna post some pictures and let all the gurus tell me about it. Will post better pictures a little later
     

  2. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas

  3. didger

    didger Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 5, 2014
    Salt Lake City
    I've got a 96 American Standard, and that has all the hallmarks of a Strat of the era. The headstock shape and serial number and its location, the blockier body, two string trees, black painted belly cut. I'm not personally aware of hard tail versions of the Lone Star, but it's very possible. That's new enough that you could email Fender Consumer Relations to confirm.
    https://support.fender.com/hc/en-us/articles/214034863-Contact-Consumer-Relations
     

  4. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas
    Thank you for the info, wasnt sure if the hardtail was legit. If it isnt, I still jave time to return it
     

  5. chrimturn

    chrimturn Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    40
    Jun 14, 2013
    Cincinnati, Earth
    I've got a '96 American Lonestar. They were based off the American Standard, and I think we're the first Fender models to include the HSS configuration. Mine came stock with a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates + humbucker, but it was not a hard tail. It had a 2 point bridge, but did have the same offset, block type saddles. I'm not sure if the hard tail was a factory option or not, either. Could have been changed later by a previous owner. I have since changed the 2 point bridge with offset block type saddles for a 2 point bridge with centered bent steel saddles and have also swapped out the tuners. Pups and guts I left stock. 2 Texas Specials and the SD Pearly Gates + HB.

    Mine also has 2 string trees. From what I see it looks just like mine did before I modified it. Everything except the hard tail. Serial number looks corresponding to the year, make and model. Should also feel like it has some weight to it when you hold it.
     

  6. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    51
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    The neck and pickups look totally legit, but I am completely ignorant about the hardtail body. The blacked out belly cut usually means they are hiding a veneer (possible with '90s era Strats, this does not mean fake, so don't panic) or a plywood body.

    Can we get some picks of the underside of the guard and the body cavities?
     

  7. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas

  8. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas
    9C50BD85-2ADD-49A1-BCCD-DE143B8EAB2D.jpeg 0FA58185-AF9E-40E1-B3F4-80EB53722056.jpeg 353BF7DC-8D3C-4156-BB0B-DD816FE648AA.jpeg 29B334BE-A0FD-41C9-BED5-5B53BFD17BB5.jpeg AE729719-5553-402F-8D16-F76F5D922E97.jpeg 0740D685-E1E5-4496-87F5-9038293949C6.jpeg 0CF8881B-B888-43C6-86EE-4D98896473A9.jpeg E91ACD90-13DF-4865-BB48-AEC5D67E2CE1.jpeg 571C7133-59A9-4A45-B82A-DE0512322A1A.jpeg 1F73D16A-1BD3-4BAB-BC76-81B8B35C03AE.jpeg I dont think its a lone star anymore. I found a plastic case in the gig bag that had a custom shop 69 in it, the misdle and neck pickups are custom shop 69. I was on another fender forum on facebook. The guy that started the facebook forum knows alot about pickups and he seems to think they are Abby pickups. The tag on the guitar said it was a Fender American Standard Straocaster, it did not say lone star on it, I saw the pearly gates humbucker and thought it was a lone star
     

  9. tealsixtysix

    tealsixtysix Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 30, 2015
    Massachusetts USA
    Yep, those are CS 69s -- I have two sets. I think what you've got is a legit American Standard Strat hardtail that has had a pickup swap. I don't think that's a bad thing -- I liked the Lone Star Strats, but in my book CS 69s > Texas Specials any day. If it sounds good to you, play and enjoy.
     
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  10. didger

    didger Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 5, 2014
    Salt Lake City
    Yeah, definitely a modded a American Standard, although you can still check with Fender like I said above. If nothing else, you'll find out whether it was originally HSS or not.
     

  11. StratPlus97

    StratPlus97 Strat-O-Master

    Age:
    35
    625
    Apr 7, 2016
    USA
    Wow, I love it. Where did you get it?
    Will you be returning it?
    I’ve always wanted a Hard Tail, and would be interested in purchasing it off of you
     

  12. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    51
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    Yes those are Abby CS '69s, and that is a legit American Standard. I didn't know they made a hardtail version. Looks like you've got a bit of a rarity on your hands. :thumb:
     

  13. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas
    I sent some pics to Fender, hopefully they can tell me if it is acually supposed to be hss or sss
     

  14. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    51
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    They can tell you if you send them the serial number.
     

  15. moparguy

    moparguy Strat-Talk Member

    69
    Mar 22, 2014
    Bryan, Texas
    Here is what Fender said.
    effrey Peterson (Fender)

    Dec 4, 16:41 MST

    Hello there!

    Thanks for contacting us. A quick search shows this as a 1998 Standard Hardtail Stratocaster in 3-Tone Sunburst. Here are the original specs:

    Model Name: American Standard Hard-Tail Stratocaster®
    Model Number: 010-7430-(Color#) and 010-7432-(Color#)
    Series: American Standard Series
    Body: Alder (Optional Swamp Ash Body Natural Finish Only pn# 010-7400/2-721)
    Neck: Maple
    Fingerboard: Rosewood (010-7430) or Maple (010-7432), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)
    Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets
    Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
    Nut: 1.6875” (43 mm)
    Hardware: Chrome
    Machine Heads: Fender/Schaller Deluxe Cast/Sealed
    Bridge: American Standard Non Tremolo Hard-Tail Bridge with Stainless Saddles
    Pickguard: 3-Ply White
    Pickups: 3 American Standard Strats
    Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade:
    Position 1. Bridge Pickup
    Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup
    Position 3. Middle Pickup
    Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup
    Position 5. Neck Pickup
    Controls: Master Volume, Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), Tone 2. New Delta-ToneTM system includes high output bridge pickup and special “no-load” tone control (Middle and Bridge Pickups)
    Colors: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, add $80.00,
    (701)** White Blonde, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements
    (702) Lake Placid Blue, (7/98)
    (705) Olympic White,
    (706) Black,
    (709) Candy Apple Red, (7/98)
    (721)** Natural Ash, add $150.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
    (724) Inca Silver,
    (774) Aqua Marine Metallic,
    (793) Purple Metallic
    (Polyurethane Finish)
    Strings: Fender Super 250L’s (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel pn#073-0250-003
    Case: Standard Molded Case
    Other Features:
    Source: U.S.
    Accessories: Molded Case
    U.S. MSRP: $999.99 (With Swamp Ash Body $1,149.99)
    INTRODUCED: 1/1998
    DISCONTINUED: 1/1999
    DISCONTINUED COLORS:
    WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod Wrench #023811 (1/8” Hex)
    Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench #018531 (.050 Hex)
    COMMENTS: Replaced by the new "American Hard Tail Stratocaster" 6/2000
    NOTICE: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice

    I hope this helps! Have a great day.

    Regards-

    Jeff Peterson

    Representative, Consumer Relations /U.S. Direct
    Sales

    Fender Musical Instruments Corp.
    17600 N. Perimeter Drive, Suite 100
    Scottsdale, AZ 85255
    Telephone: 480-845-5108
    Fax: 480-367-5262

    Fender Play: The easiest way to learn guitar. Start playing now.
     

  16. didger

    didger Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 5, 2014
    Salt Lake City
    Minor clarification. Initials means she "inspected" them. A full signature means she wound them.
     
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