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  1. HighwayStar106

    HighwayStar106 Strat-Talker

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    ...about my Legend Strat copy. When it's plugged in, everything goes through the the amp. If I switch pickups, the noise of the switch goes through the amp, even if I tap the pickgaurd or the volume/tone controls with my finger, it goes through the amp. It really spoils the effect when using delay/reverb! Why does it do this, and how can I stop it? It seems to be particularly bad when using the neck pickup.
     
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    Microphonic pickups?
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Definitely microphonic pickups.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I thought so.

    I answered a possible silly (not really) question with a rhetorical one.:p
     
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    @HighwayStar106 - Not a stupid question at all.

    I believe Legend was made by, or at least in the same factory as Aria Japan. Which produced many nice guitars over the years.
    But, they are made to meet a price point, and corners sometimes need to be cut.

    Microphonic pickups are a definite, though I would go as far to say grounding, shielding and faulty components all may be sharing the blame.

    Not all is doom and gloom though. :thumb:

    Dragonfire makes some really nice pre-assembled pick up assemblies for Strats that are very affordable. Like cheap as a couple of large pizzas affordable.

    The pick guards may not fit a Strat copy, but theres no reason you cant swap the Dragonfire parts into the Legends existing guard.
    Then solder the ground wires and your problems should disappear.
     
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    Sounds like a grounding issue to me.
     
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    How would that be a grounding issue when you tap the pickguard and hear it through the amp? It is microphonic pickups.
     
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    Yep. I'll bet they sound great too.
     
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    That is a very good possibility. The microphonic Filtertrons in my Gretsch Jet sure do. :thumb:
     
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    All of my guitars have microphonic pickups. They're lively sounding, and I don't play with stupid amounts of gain. So its a win-win for me. :)
     
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    I find the same thing. I don't play with crazy gain either, and I find that unpotted pickups do seem to sound/feel more lively. The bridge pickup in my black Tele is a bit microphonic too, and sounds really good. Maybe it's just in my head, but I like it.
     
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    There's too many other players who feel the same way. It's a real thing. :)
     
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    Thanks everyone, I'm glad it's the pickups because I'm going to upgrade them anyway! It's a cool guitar, but the neck and middle pickups sound pretty bad, to my ears anyway.
    It could be shielding as well, in fact I don't think there's any shielding paint in the pickup cavity (unless you can get transparent shielding paint), so that could have something to do with it. Hopefully a pickup upgrade will help. :)
     
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    I can't live with microphonic pickups, they annoy me. Getting them wax potted for around £10 has always solved this problem to my satisfaction, & I have never found that this spoils anything, despite the prophets of doom who say that it will ruin the sound.

    Or just fit better pickups.
     
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    Microphonic pick ups are the 'tone wood" of electronics. Mythical, surreal, hyped, hated ...

    I play with a metric ton of gain 99% of the time, and I've never had an issue with microphonic pick ups.
     
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    Ah....I may have jumped to a conclusion...
     
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    Listen to Roy Buchanan. Those are microphonic pickups. Both of them. :)

    Or listen to me. Microphonic...on purpose. I wound them that way, and only potted with a dunk in thinned lacquer.



    I can't stand beeswax potted pickups. They sound like they have a blanket over them. ;)
     
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    That, sir, was how to make your point in style! :D
     
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