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American Strat Angled Trem Block Block? Wedge?

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  1. minty strat

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    Hi all,

    I'd like to block the trem on my American Pro Strat, so I can tune to open E and the like without the bridge rising up. The three springs just don't give enough tension. Does anyone have a good diagram with all the proper dimensions to make a wedge to put behind the tremolo block? Or perhaps is there someone making them out of hardwood that has them for sale?

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  2. Bob the builder

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    Add a spring and tape a few quarters in there.
    It ain't gonna move
     
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    The space to fill is a funky shape. Measure the gap you have with the bridge plate decked, cut a block, push it down in there, mark where you need to cut the block, remove, trim, then push it back in there.

    Here is my Relic partscaster with a maple block. Once it's in there I removed the springs and claw.
    (this guitar has a humbucker>volume>Jack wiring scheme).

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  4. minty strat

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    It is a funky shape. The trem block is angled, tapered from front to back, so the wedge needs to be angled to match. Was hoping someone had a measure of the angle of taper. Also, quarters also don't fit well because of the taper.
     
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    Screw in the claw some more, that’ll tighten it up.
     
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    I will. I've also ordered some extra springs. Anything I've put behind the block seems to want to squirt out.
     
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    Only the lower half of the trem block is tapered....
     
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    Here is mine that I've had blocked for over a year. I understand about the taper, and I don't find it an issue at all. In this case I had a little piece of mahogany (although I doubt the type of wood or other material would make a difference--except maybe wax or a snickers bar) and cut it to as close a fit as I could. Then I sanded it and gave it a slight wedge shape. I can press it in by hand, or I GENTLY use a tiny brass hammer. Friction holds it in just fine. I don't think a wedge is necessary, nor is it necessary for the entire surface of the wood block to contact the trem block. You just need it tight enough to hold the block in place and not fall out. Definitely don't use a lot of force to make the block go in.

    "I like wood." --Jim Gaffigan.
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    Thanks Stratomatt.
     
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    As n American Pro, I'll bet it's got the black trem springs? Those are lower tension than the silver/chrome ones. If you simply put five of the silver ones in, you likely won't need a block and might not even need to tighten the claw screws to accomplish your goal! And it will still work for down bends, if you like.
    Jus My $.02,
    Gene
     
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    Saw a guy on reverb is selling special hardwood tone blocks for like 20 bucks. It doesn't much matter what you put in there as long as it holds the bridge in place, 5 springs would do the same thing, it's not like it's going to add sustain or any other such silliness
     
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    I buddy of mine has a cork, from a wine bottle, jammed in there. Seems to do the trick, he’s a monster player.
     
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    That is what I did. Kind of an angled chunk of cork works nice.
     
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    Hardwood.
    Cork will just suck the tone right out.
    :)
     
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    And thus we come back to my original question
     
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    Never played Dominos?

    Perfect!
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    Maybe for a standard trem block, but not for this purpose.
     
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    I do mine differently.

    I put the wood on the indside under the springs, use double sided tape to attach to the metal block and add 5 springs.
    I make the thickness of the wood enuf to lift the back of the baseplate 2-3mm off the body
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