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Are pedalboards doomed?

Discussion in 'The Effect effect' started by MetalPedal, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. SAguitar

    SAguitar Senior Stratmaster

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    This is my current set of stompers, subject to change of course. I also have a Boss GT-6 and a Line 6 XT Live that I drag out once in awhile. I would love to try some of the current stuff like Helix and Fractal but haven't been able to justify the expense yet.

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  2. jjudas

    jjudas Strat-O-Master

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    I'm not a gigging musician. I'm just a at home player. I decided after buying several pedals, to not go the stomp box route. I'm happy using my Boss ME50 and ME70 multi effects units.
     
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  3. Guitarhacker

    Guitarhacker Strat-Talker

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    I like the individualistic aspect of assembling your own pedal board. You can pick which type of effect you are looking for and which pedal builder you want. There are some fantastic pedal makers out there right now.
     
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  4. circles

    circles Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    For the longest time I just used a little delay, but in recent years I've been exploring all sorts of sounds and love them. It's like being a cook in the kitchen, adding spices and stuff. I'd like to have stereo amps (Stratoman10 for example!), not practical at this juncture. Wouldn't be prudent.
     
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  5. Nasser

    Nasser Strat-Talk Member

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    Here's the thing. Everything in your chain has an affect on your tone.... and if you're a tone connoisseur (and most guitarists are tone chasers) , then different pedals will offer you different flavors and shades of color - whether we're talking OD, modulation, delays, reverbs, etc.. Mixing and matching your pedals with your pickups, amp, strings, and even you picks will give you an infinite pallet to work with. Even if you're going for a very minimal setup having this flexibility is a great benefit.

    I've very much embraced emulations and plugins with great success but there's still a reason why valve amps are still around... they not only sound great but more importantly they feel great and they inspire. I feel the same way about pedals.

    For a while they were out of vogue when everyone was rack mounting in the 80's but it's no accident that we've come back to using pedals and still use valve amps... and it's no accident that we're seeing something of a golden age with the proliferation of pedal and amp manufacturers.

    It's a great time to be an electric guitar player.

    Cheers,
    nas
     
  6. joebloggs

    joebloggs Strat-Talker

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    ^^^^ Agreed! I love each and every one of my pedals, and will not be getting rid of them. Plus I really like the way they look.:) Companies like Strymon have made big advances in technology and are making high quality units.
     
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    Kayden33 Strat-O-Master

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    I’m not lazy, I love pedals and I love to tweak and turn knobs. I suppose if you’re ok with living within a processor boundary and never experimenting to find your own sound I guess take the processor way.

    I myself feel limited when using a processor, by limited I mean I’m living within a sound that’s given to me by that manufacturer. Of course you can tweak but your tweaking within the set limits of whatever your given.

    I feel possibility’s are endless with pedals because you have so many manufacturers, designs, components and more.

    I feel a processor is a cheap way to “emulate” but it’s never gonna cut it. I’m not saying processors are bad but I’m not trusting a company that creates and jam packs every sound I could need into a processor. Hell no, that’s why we have so many overdrive, phaser, choruses, fuzz pedals and more. If your going the processor route you might well buy a solid state amp and maybe even then a Line 6 amp because by this point it’s over. I have several Reverb delay, overdrive, fuzz pedals and more. I have more than one because each sounds different and no matter how I tweak them they don’t sound the same. So with the processor your stuck within that range of what your given.

    Just my opinion
     
  8. Namelyguitar

    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    No, pedalboards are here to stay!

    Stay tuned, my next creation will be a product of the cold months here to come, in the U.S.

    There is a problem in the pedalboard world, too many black boards! My next invention will have wood grain that pops, yes grain that you can see, and is visually appealing.

    Alas, it will be one of a kind. Perhaps you will see it as an inspiration to BUILD a good looking, pedalboard of your own.
     
  9. JamesE

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    I guess most of them are black so you can see where the chrome switch is... I've got a VOX Big Ben. It's chrome with a chrome switch.
     
  10. 33db

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    A couple of things, first you're use to the sounds your phone has, I use amplitude via PC (and BIAS FX as well) don't like either of them.
    I use Guitar Rig for recording, and for live stuff I had a simple pedal board into a Quilter 101 (I have a few tube amps, always come back to Quilter)
    Purchased the Helix, and I may be one of the only people you will see to say "I'm not happy or impressed" with it.

    Running a Strat straight into my old Fender Princeton reverb sounds great, nothing software or "model" wise comes close to it to my ears. (Except the Quilter 101... believe that or don't)

    If you like what you have why spend more money? I've chased the "tone monkey" through most of the top end software, and now modeler (Helix) and I'm disappointed.

    There's a reason so much advertising uses key words like "vintage tone, classic tone", because none of the new stuff comes close to the old stuff IMO, and I'm sure more than a little of it had to do with how it was recorded, on tape rather than digitally.

    TLDR: Glad I kept my Princeton, everything else makes me feel like a old man shouting "get off my grass".
     
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  11. JB74

    JB74 Senior Stratmaster

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    There's a lot of hype and BS marketing surrounding multi-fx and modelling.

    It was no different 30 years ago, when effects racks were taking up 2 page spread advertisements in guitar magazines.

    The 90's and early 2000's saw a resurgence in boutiquey branded remakes of mass-produced simple pedal circuits - eg fuzz face and tubescreamer.
    The difference? the marketing BS was a tad 'fruitier'. Still, if you scratched the surface, you could smell the BS.

    What's changed? Not a freakin thing. Zip. Nada. Nil.

    A new refined twist on the same tried and true marketing techniques wrapped up in new media... aka Farcebook, pootube and instafap.

    As the SMD tech evolves and becomes more cost-friendly, and low-volume production methods become more common and affordable, the micropedals will eventually take over and become the mainstream corporate offering. Mooer etc already doing it famously well and in at the budget end with rehashes of all the well-known circuits. What's more - they're no different to the 200-in-1 multiple-fx pedal's FPGA - they are just using a cheaper chip and selling one mod in one box.

    It makes more money, and profit is the #1 target here, no mistake.

    Whether your first experience with multiple fx was the venerable ME-5 or a Helix, it matters not. They have a different quality of tone shaping than an individual analogue circuit.
    This is the key differentiator in why pedals can and will happily coexist and compete for the same target demographic for the rest of eternity.

    If you think the delay in your strymon timeline is the bees knees, You haven't played an Echorec2 or an old maestro Echoplex. Even the new recreations can get close - real close..... but they cannot do it the same - and this is the fundamental difference.

    I have amplitude, I have a katana 100 and know how all the DIDO works.

    I also have a pedal board, I run a wet/dry/wet rig and there is no comparison when you are delving into your own experimental sound discovering process.

    Modelling and multifx will not get you there. What they can do and do really well, is take the tone you have created, and replicate it to a reasonably close approximation, which you can then take in a much smaller form factor to your gig or your mates place and thrash it out, without lugging 4x12's, heads, combos and a pedalboard weighing 100lbs.
     
  12. EC Strat-boy

    EC Strat-boy Strat-O-Master Strat-Talk Supporter

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    For me, a digital effects unit is just too clean and perfect and not very responsive to pick attack

    I love how an analog set up is more “organic” and responsive to tone and volume pot adjustments as well as how hard you’re picking the strings
     
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