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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Guy Named Sue, Jan 1, 2018.

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  1. johnnywizzo

    johnnywizzo Strat-Talker

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    Dec 21, 2014
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    I've never been a Yoko fan, but I have trouble understanding all of the hate towards her. She is a performance artist, and like her stuff or not, she has been rather successful. And apparently a certain famous musician thought quite a bit of her.
     
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  2. Vjerilood

    Vjerilood Senior Stratmaster

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    Jul 30, 2017
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    While I’m less than impressed with “avant-garde” art (if they even use that term any more), I agree, it should be noted that she apparently got some recognition for her visual and performance pieces. It’s her music that everyone hates. And that “everyone” might be literal. I suppose there is someone out there who loves her music but they are few and far between. Even by nonexistent avant-garde standards, it’s excruciating.
     

  3. Monkeyboy

    Monkeyboy Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Give me a thousand miles of Laurie Anderson for every inch of Yoko Ono .
     

  4. LPBlue

    LPBlue "That Guy", again...dammit! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Yoko...a dog whistle that humans can hear!:mad:

    They could sample her voice for emergency sirens!:rolleyes:
     
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  5. ocean

    ocean Most Honored Senior Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    In a house
    Open minded.. but not enough to watch video .
     

  6. LPBlue

    LPBlue "That Guy", again...dammit! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Yoko sounds like JAV...interesting but I can't stand the noise!:whistling::D
     

  7. fezz parka

    fezz parka R.P.M. (Retired Professional Musician) Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Like Nowheresville, man.
    That's a big jump there bud. I enjoy some Yoko stuff. I also like Ornette Coleman , Patti Smith and Glenn Branca. I'd put her in that group easily. It's art. You get it or you don't. There's no good reason to crap in their shoes though.

    Your "everyone" thing is flawed if it's being represented as fact. If it's just your opinion, then it's flawed too, because I seriously doubt you know "everyone".
     
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  8. CigBurn

    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Jun 22, 2014
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    Another Yoko pile on thread eh? What was there nothing new from Mayer, Clapton, Yngwie to poop on?

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  9. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Nov 14, 2013
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    Actually, I don't think I've ever seen another "poop on Yoko" thread.
     

  10. CigBurn

    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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  11. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 30, 2013
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    No.

    You're a Strat-Talk mate, but everything I've seen or heard that woman over a 40+ year period has either been pointless, incompetent in its execution, and/or utterly parasitical in using her relationship with John Lennon to lend some credibility to her drivel.
     
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  12. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    Over the holidays, I did buy some Blue Cheese that was aged inside pinetree bark for a year.

    It tasted great, but I'll admit, I did not eat the bark.
     

  13. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    It's easy to joke at Yoko's expense, but we have to give her credit where credit is due.

    At least she got rid of the Beatles for us.

     
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  14. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I listened to that... and seriously wished I hadn't. To me, 'art' that is designed to shock or offend sends me the clear message that the 'artist' has almost nothing to say. Will anyone remember what these Meatmen morons played in five years time? Does anyone remember or care about them now?

    This might be a massively unfashionable view, but I happen to believe that before you deserve to be considered an 'artist' you need to at least acquire the craft skills required to deliver what you are trying to convey to your audience. Any artist who says The Beatles belong to the last century, or we have no real use for representational art in the age of digital photography, will get a sympathetic hearing from me. BUT THEY NEED TO DELIVER SOMETHING BETTER*. Anything less is empty posturing.

    I also have a problem with a great deal of 'conceptual art' and 'installation art'.

    It means nothing to me.

    Years ago, I actually tried to work with an installation artist. Many people who encountered one of her works thought it was OK to put their newspaper and umbrellas into it. Once you can't tell the difference between 'art' and 'nicely designed storage product', I'd suggest to you it ain't really high art. I bailed.

    *By which I mean, I still listen to it 50 years later.
     
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  15. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    I'd say yes, since that song is already 36 years old....
     

  16. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Except that I have never heard that song before, and never heard of The Meatmen (and I'd be willing to bet that a majority of the members here also have not), but I'm pretty sure I know who the Beatles are.

    I have to agree with @simoncroft on this one.
     
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  17. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    Art is Art.

    You've just got to have an open mind.

    For instance, The Meatmen's biggest hit was "Morrissey Must Die".

    Decades latter when it came time to make an all-star tribute album to The Smiths (that was Morrissey's band), The Meatmen were asked to record a cover of "How Soon Is Now".

    That's delightfully ironic, and it shows Morrissey can laugh at himself.






    https://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-meatmen-mn0000476736/biography
     

  18. Vjerilood

    Vjerilood Senior Stratmaster

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    Jul 30, 2017
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    You’d put Yoko in the same class as Ornette Coleman? Wow. Just wow.

    But thank you for speaking up as someone who likes her music. Not everyone hates it after all.
     

  19. fezz parka

    fezz parka R.P.M. (Retired Professional Musician) Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2011
    Like Nowheresville, man.
    In that some people think his music is just noise, yeah.

     

  20. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Approaching the Crossroads Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 19, 2011
    red barn, USA
    these Yoko threads are the gift that keeps on giving.....
     
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