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  1. Dadocaster

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    About to do some mixing, listening to Search And Destroy, supposed to be a later mix not the one from 73. It has that odd fuzzy low end that sounds like it's about to fly apart. Growling. I love that. It's also funny that I did not listen to punk but reverse evolved toward the old styles. :D
     
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    Great sounds for live. The guitars sound the way I like.

     
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    OK, bringing this thing home for better or worse. What is the equivalent to "clams" when describing capture/mixing? Damn. I have a capture issue that has made this much more time consuming than it otherwise would have been. I will make a point of dealing with that issue going forward.

    With regard to the buss for reverb, I like the glue and the sense of space. It's working. Do I need to eq into that reverb? It's a "one knob" type because I get all OCD if I have too man parameters. HP filter on the way in to avoid tubby? Also, during the intro/bridgie/outro thing, the reverb tails are hanging around in the silences. A gate to get rid of them or do I just leave them? Damn my OCD.

    Thanks...
     
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    Man I love how well her voice has held up. :thumb:
     
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    I was talking about the VOX. If ou listen to the original the doubling is further to the back.
    No. Like I said to Ron. If you think it sounds good...then dial it back a touch more. It'll sound better in the long run. Since you're creating a space...there won't be silence. Just like in a room, the tails will be there. Accept them. High pass is great if you set the knee at around 100hz. Any higher , and you start to kill the lower mids, which is where all the oomph is. :D
     
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    Yeah. Kind of surprising. The songs hold up well too.

    (Answer my OCD mixing questions, dang it!! :D )
     
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    I'm 100% positive there is a right way to do it, that I am not doing it that way speaks only to my derpiness..But

    In reaper anyway I open a track envelope/volume control that I use to adjust things. Raise and lower to make up for parts that are either too quiet or too loud. You can do the same with any effect like reverb as well. It overrides the main setting of the effect for the duration of the change made in the envelope..

    Poor description of it but its what I do.
     
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    One of my secret weapons:

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    Again this is in Reaper and probably not the right way to do it.. but it looks like this. Click the trim button and a pull down showing some default envelope options like volume appears. Any plugins used will also be listed with whatever parameters the plugin uses as well.

    So as in this example.. you will see a Volume track below the recorded track. The green line can be right clicked to insert points for whatever parameter you are tweaking, which can then be dragged up or down to change how the effect is used for a brief period of time.

    trim control.jpg
     
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    Automation. Just like flying faders. ;)
     
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    I did not buy this despite @simoncroft keeping me informed when it was on sale. Figured I did not need it since I have a local guy that mixed some stuff for me. So, I am going to be riding the virtual fader after I get a mix I like. At the same time, my capture is better and I am better with compression so it's not as big an issue. Kinda. :D
     
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    I use it on everything I do. It is a magic (virtual) box. VOX, bass and lead guitar especially. Set the parameters, and it rides the fader better than you can with you hand/brain.
     
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    Just thought I'd drop one more descriptive image for this, so you can see some of what parameters are available for in track tweaking.

    Trim4.jpg
     
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    You'll dig it Ron.
     
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    Sadly it will have to wait.. Wallet is still sore and limping from xmas.

    But once something is on my radar, its a bad sign. :D
     
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    OK, here is work for today, my cyborg ear is exhausted. As noted, need automation on vocals but mostly sounding a way that I like. I am only shooting for BandCamp good, not Butch Vig on a bad day good.



    Edit: Also need to finish editing. When I get the sound of vocals focused in a way that I kinda like, suddenly the breathing is very audible. A few other things to clean up on other tracks to make the silences more silent and the louds more louds.
     
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    Waves discounted offers come round quicker than Sundays. Also, if you get on the AudioDeluxe registered mailing list, you can often get an even better deal. One day, that prize will be yours, and probably for $29.

    Not sure whether to put a smiley or an angry, because I probably paid too much for some of the tools I use. o_O
     
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    I can hear the compressor pumping on the VOX. When you go back to it, dial it down a bit. And they're sitting on top of rather than in the mix. Big egg, small nest. :D
     
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    You and me both. Still....they are worth every penny. :D
     
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