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Discussion in 'MyMusic Forum' started by Omar, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    a humble improv over G major track. The start is a bit hesitant.

    G major, Em pentatonic and C Lydian.

    Backing track:


    Improv:


    I look forward to your constructive comments :)
     

  2. Mouse

    Mouse The Knees of Rock Strat-Talk Supporter

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    It sounds to me as if someone has done their homework. You're creating some nice melodies using arpeggios and I see you're now using more of the neck. Well done.

    I typically reserve advice to those more qualified to give it but I'll just say be careful with your bends that you bend them to the correct pitch. A good practice technique is to first play the note that you're trying to bend to, then play the bent note making sure that at the end of the bend it sounds like your target note. So if you're bending the 15th fret B string (the D) a whole step to the E, first play the E note on the 17th fret. Lock that sound in your head and then when you bend the 15th fret up, don't stop bending until you hit that pitch. Go back and play the 17th fret again to make sure you are hitting your target. Do this for 1/2, whole, 1 1/2, and 2 step bends. After a while you'll develop muscle memory and know instinctively how far to bend.
     

  3. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    @Mouse you're a qualified player, your advice counts. Thank you so much!

    I know, my bends suck unfortunately. I’m honestly not practicing bending much. I’m focusing on getting familiar with notes on the neck and intervals. I also need to work on hitting the right note on chords changing. Long way to go! :D
     
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  4. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    As some inspiration (hopefully) this is an improv that I did for one of the challenges. One take off the top of my head. I've worked hard over the years to create themes on the spot. Its in G like yours. @Mouse do you remember this challege? I'd like Omar to have a go at the backing, I just can't remember which one. :)

     
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  5. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Guess I remembered it.

     
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  6. Mouse

    Mouse The Knees of Rock Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Ah yes...I remember it now. Now I'm curious what I played over this one. I suspect I used my acoustic.
     
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  7. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Absolutely amazing! Thank you for sharing it. Yes, it is inspirational :)

    I will give it a go tonight. Thanks God It's Friday :D (nice title for the improv lol)
     
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  8. Mouse

    Mouse The Knees of Rock Strat-Talk Supporter

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  9. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I tried hard to replicate your improv to no avail. It’s amazing, no cheat sheet? ;)
     
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  10. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    G major triads. G major pent.
    Triads are the launch point. The main "theme" starts with an arpeggiated triad. :)
     
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  11. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    I delete my old improvs after 6 weeks because storage is always a hassle... maybe I'll revisit that one... it's been awhile
     
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  12. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

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    Omar, great work!!! You’ve got nice taste and your playing is pretty good. Keep at it and pretty soon cats like @fezz parka are gonna be asking you how you played that ;)

    Well, at least @Nate D will :)
     
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  13. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    More hints please :D spoil me lol
     
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  14. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    That’s why I use YouTube. All my videos aren’t listed so there are hidden from search engines.

    Thank you so much, Nate! I need years to learn what @fezz parka forgot in guitar :D
     
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  15. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Here's the way to do it.
    Put down the guitar.
    Play the backing track.
    Sing or hum a melody over the progression.
    Pick up the guitar and try to replicate it.


    The simplest way to do it is start with the G major scale.
     
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  16. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I’ll try it. Good idea :)
     
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  17. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

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    Not to overstep, but I agree with @fezz parka here. Make sure you learn a scale frontwards and backwards before trying to mix in other modes or scales. In my experience, you’ll play that scale naturally and you’ll be able to add additional scales very quickly once you get your legs. Hen you’ll be off and running improvising at a pretty proficient level.
     
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  18. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    @Nate D Thank you, Nate :) This is what I'm actually doing everyday. @fezz parka has provided me with many precious advice to start with. I can feel I'm getting better at resolving chords, not perfect, but good for now. I practice G major E and D shapes, C major A and C shapes because they fall within same frets. Tiring, but fun :)
     
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  19. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Let's look at the G major scale.

    G, A, B, C, D, E, and F♯.
    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

    So your chord progression is:

    I-G
    ii- Am
    iii-Bm
    IV-C
    V-D
    vi-Em
    vii°-F#dim

    You know how to build the triads. Play the triads along with the backing track. You'll be able to figure them out easily. Get them in your head by just working the triads. Apeggiate them, and alternate/mix up the order: 1-3-5, 5-3-1, 3-1-5, etc.

    Around the triads on the fretboard, there will be "low hanging fruit" (the two extra pent notes, then the extra diatonic notes) to spice up the arpeggiated triads. Its all right there.

    :D
     
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