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Big name guitarists using lower powered amps (??)

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by dueducs, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:34 AM.

  1. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    I am writing a piece on the Fender 5E3 Deluxe and could use your help. I think it is safe to say that there is a trend towards lower powered tube amplifiers these days among the common folk (like many of us)- especially in the crowds that like vintage style gear. Seems many many people have a 5E3, 5F1, or 5f2 clone, a Stage Right 5 or 15w, or one of a plethora of other 1-22 w (Deluxes, AC15, etc etc.) amps.
    But what about big name performers? Is that trend also being seen in the big leagues?
    Who are some big names that use low-powered vintage style amps?

    What about 5E3 (or similar) users?
    Drop some names....
     
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    Ever since FOH got good...amps got smaller.

    Mick Ralphs. ( look at the Bad Company Hard Rock Live vids on the YouTube. Yes there's a wall of dummy Marshalls, but at far stage right, there's a 5e3 with a Mic on it.)
    Neil Young.
    Ry Cooder.
    Mike Campbell.
    Beck with his Pro Jr's.
    Rich Robinson.
    The Edge.
    Don Felder.
    Elvis Costello.
    Some old guy in AZ. ;)
     
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    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    LOL. Nice!
    FOH?
     
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    fezz parka The Return of the Red Helmet Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Front of House. PA's got good. Amps didn't need to be as loud.

    And I meant stage left. Audience right. LOL.
     
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    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Hah! I'd have never picked it out if you hadn't pointed it out.

    BC.jpg
     
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    Del1 Senior Stratmaster

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    And didn't Clapton use a tweed Champ on the Layla sessions, years ago?
     
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    Stormy Monday Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Not just big names. A lot of places around here have noise restrictions, even dB meters, so I see quite a few smaller 12 watt-ish amps at gigs
     
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    As an extension of this conversation, quite a few bands these days are using digital modelers piped directly into the PA so there is no stage volume at all.

    Check out this list just for the Kemper https://www.kemper-amps.com/artist-gallery
     
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    Larry Carlton - 5e3
    Jim Campilongo - Princeton Reverb
    Chris Stapleton - Princeton Reverb
    Steve Cropper - 5e3
     
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    tery Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    At the last CMA awards I noticed 2 Pro Jr's on the backline with the big Marshall stacks & Twins .
     
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    I have understood Steve Cropper played a 5f10 (Harvard).
     
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    Back in the mid to late 90's Eric Johnson switched to Fender Deluxe's for his clean sounds - but he's back up to Twins again.
     
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    Warren Haynes.

    Saw him sit in with Little Feat last month for the last thrid of the show. He played a Les Paul plugged into a Fender Deluxe Reverb.

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    JD Simo uses Deluxe Reverbs at smaller shows.
     
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    I'm a nobody, but after building my PR clone that ended up being some sort of 18-20 watt monster, I can't see ever needing anything bigger. Like Fezz said, PA systems make all the difference. I could be wrong, but I am under the general impression that studio session guys have most often run smaller amps because that's all they really needed. Full stacks for the sake of volume are from the bygone era of stadium shows where PA's were junk for basic announcements.
     
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    From what I've read there were Champs, Princetons, Harvards (try finding one of those!), and a Deluxe in the studio, all being used at one time or another. Nothing bigger.

    In the studio, little amps = big sound, I think because you can crank the hell out of them without overdriving the mic.
     
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    Spot on. My buddies studio has an Orange 50 or 100 watt half stack that gathers dust in the corner. The metal bands that record there used it before but now they plug into the 15-20 watt Orange or other similar heads and the blues and rock guys use the Princeton, Deluxe or Fuchs ODS (30 watts) for recording. I always laugh when I go to small venues (500 or so seats) and see a guitarist with a 100 watt head and 4x12.
     
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    I do believe back in the 60s most bands used 15,20 and 30 watt amps, they had to increase the volume to fight the crowd noise. Then came out door and stadium Shows so a larger watt amp was needed. Do you play in those places. If the Drummer is so loud a 15 watt amp cant compete have the drummer stuff his drums or put skins on the bottom of the drums.
     
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