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Burn the young guitarist!!! Heresy!!! Burn him!!!

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Dadocaster, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. amstratnut

    amstratnut Peace thru Music. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 1, 2009
    My house.
    I can take it in small doses. We had a member here that is amazing at this genre.

    They sound very similar.



     
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  2. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    I would sound just as terrible without an amp. Maybe she’s on to something, show up with my iPhone or tablet a couple cables and the guitar.

    Save my back and not have to worry about as much gear.
     

  3. amstratnut

    amstratnut Peace thru Music. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 1, 2009
    My house.
    Here is a randon video in same genre. She is very impressive.
     
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  4. nederemer

    nederemer Strat-O-Master

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    Oct 25, 2017
    Somerset, Kentucky, USA.
    Just an hour?

    Damn. I guess I am a bit obsessive but I could spend just an hour practicing one thing. It wasn't at all unusual for me to (at their age) practice for 12 or more hours a day... of course... I didn't exactly devote a lot of time to school or homework.... lol
     

  5. Uncle Fiesta

    Uncle Fiesta Senior Stratmaster

    I agree, far too many notes. It's like someone talking at you so fast you can't understand what they're trying to say; I've no desire to listen to music like that, it's just too tiring.

    Just SLOW DOWN already!!

    Heaven knows what these people are going to be like when they start driving ...
     

  6. hogrider16

    hogrider16 Strat-Talk Member

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    Jul 26, 2017
    Martinsburg, WV
    There's nothing wrong with being able to play incredibly fast, but if that's all you do, it gets old really fast. REALLY talented players are the ones that can blow your mind without having to resort to playing a million notes a minute.

    Some of these people remind me of American Idol contestants (the few I've bothered to listen to). They have incredible voices, but are just not very interesting to listen to. Your life experiences are what make you interesting and sitting in your basement or singing karaoke just doesn't get you there.
     
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  7. hogrider16

    hogrider16 Strat-Talk Member

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    Jul 26, 2017
    Martinsburg, WV
    I don't believe that you play like that practicing one hour a day. Sounds more like a marketing campaign to create some kind of prodigy/legend.
     

  8. CigBurn

    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
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    Jun 22, 2014
    Same Shed Different Day
    Well there is that... :)
     
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  9. sam_in_cali

    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 21, 2014
    Santa Maria, CA
    Never heard of Plini but I checked out a couple songs of his on YT...not bad at all. Djent music that I can actually stand.
     
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  10. Dadocaster

    Dadocaster Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sigh. I was actually aiming a nose tweak at our traditionalists by pointing out that there are new guitarists coming up that DO NOT USE AMPS. :D

    I have never heard YOYO play, I listen to Plini with some regularity and will probably continue to because I like his songs, his chops and his tone.

    I am not even going to bother to respond to the same old comments alleging the same old sins regarding players with chops. :D
     
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  11. Stark

    Stark Ghost of Johnny Thunders Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Jul 16, 2011
    Richmond Annex, CA
    I’m glad these kiddos are doing stuff that annoys most of you guys so much. I’d be worried if everyone was cool with it.
     
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  12. sam_in_cali

    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 21, 2014
    Santa Maria, CA

    Ahh,missed the point of the thread. I do see a lot more players using direct input (kempers, axefx, etc) setups on stage due to the simplicity and small footprint but I have not really heard of anyone completely abandoning amps in the studio. I can see that happening though at some point with newer generation of players.
     

  13. Dick Blackmore

    Dick Blackmore Strat-O-Master

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    Jan 10, 2017
    San Diego
    No mention of Sarah Longfield or Mike Dawes?



     
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  14. Mississippi_Kid

    Mississippi_Kid Senior Stratmaster

    This thread has become two..."kids playing guitars" and "the need of amps".

    1. glad there will be skilled guitarist in the future
    2. if it sounds good...great
     

  15. s5tuart

    s5tuart My Dad used to say.... Strat-Talk Supporter

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  16. cappei

    cappei Strat-O-Master

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    Jun 24, 2017
    Quillota, Valparaíso, Chile
    All I can say bout them. They sound plastic, and made inside a calculator or a software, few of them aren't but is like nickelodeon is growin' guitar players now.

    I get into rock and metal because it was raw, visceral, rebel, strong and proud. I remember watching 79's videos of Ace Frehley, seeyin him doin things like a god damn comet.

    Iron Maiden, Priest, SRV, guitar players pushing limits and doin it with their soul.

    These kids look like robots to me, and I find that depresing. I think that just playin' in a style canon doesn't make it a livin gender. After all, rock and metal was about a cultural movement, not just a bunch of dudes playing fast. I Think guitar playing has sublimated to a point that it's ars gratia artis. Therefore becomin futile and meaningless. But well, Im the kind of guy who think rock and metal HAS to be social and political. Been young and not being a rebel is like a biological contradiction.

    I think that the build up of a musician is maybe even more important than just be a boy who took classes steady from age 8 or 12 or what ever. The good bands IMHO are the ones with a story to tell.
     
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  17. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    Awe is in the ears and brain of the listener. He's quite good, but these old ears aren't awestruck. :D
     

  18. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    Rivers Cuomo and Glen Campbell use/used Pods. Neither are new guitarists. :D
     
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  19. Boognish

    Boognish Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 31, 2011
    Austin
    I'm not into this type of music, but I actually like this song! I"m not sure how I feel about that...
     

  20. manfromplanetx

    manfromplanetx Strat-Talk Member

    68
    Apr 29, 2011
    Ohio
    It's all relative to what you like and like to do. I come from the shredder/metal arena... but I really don't play like that too much and have always just played whatever comes out, or that I can do (hahahaha).
    Plini, I believe, is pretty listenable and definitely an excellent technician. At the same time, he does tend to duplicate and lose me sometimes. With that, I can't play like he does, maybe I could... but thats his gig.
    I remember (here goes the old man babbling) back in the late 70's early 80s with EVH and then the shredder type guitarists that came out of that, it was something new. Not many people had brought their technique to that level or whatever it takes to do that. Now a days you can go into GC and hear 10 year old kids playing tech that it took me 5 - 10 years to stumble across. Of course, ask them to solo over a I, II, V change and they will stare at you like you are the crazy old man you are, pick up their phone and text their friends that they are getting bullied in GC, and post the video on at least 5 different social media sites "Epic GC Fail OMG!!!" The thing here is, they (the 10yr old) has access to so much information on guitars, playing, hardware that us over 50 never had that it is truly a new thing.
    So I guess whether its shredding, cooking, driving, history... whatever, this is truly the age of instant information and opinion. But, it makes you wonder whether there is going to be any substance behind it. One thing that does thread all through it, is the guitar... a couple of pieces of wood, some bits of metal and plastic, that make it possible. 70+ years later, and the same basic design. The rest of it, recording, amps etc. may have gotten bigger then slightly smaller, then even smaller, then in some cases disappear altogether, but you still have that piece of wood there.
    I am not sure exactly what prompted me to rant... sorry. One of these days I will go on my new found Stratocaster rant!!!

    MPX
     
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