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Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by Bazz Jass, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. Bazz Jass

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    Maybe it means the neck pocket was routed to remove stamped evidence of what the body actually is.
     
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    Those are hella tall frets to need accommodating at the pocket.
     
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    I don't know why, but while routing the neck pocket, changing the pots and switch they apparently also needed to change the aluminium shield. I guess the old one was broken...

    And why not include a picture of the neck pocket? Neck date?
     
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    https://applink.reverb.com/item/14482026-1964-fender-stratocaster

    Same guitar on Reverb for $10,500. They show a few more pics including the neck date, which appears dirty. Weird look under the tuner too. Almost looks like the neck was greased or mucked up while apart, then later buffed. Some strange stuff going on. Should be interesting to watch.
     
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  6. Mipstoo

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    So a presumably original 64 with some issues advertised on Reverb for $10.5k and now on eBay with no reserve price. I wonder if the seller is deliberately holding out on something
     
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    If I was going to give big bucks for a vintage guitar it better be all original.
     
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    I would pay the current price of $2k for it but I wouldn't pay $10k. I figure at $2k its all upside regardless of what is still original.
     
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    In my head I can hear Del Shannon...
     
  10. Mipstoo

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    Why a why why why why why?
     
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    If the logo has fallen off the case, it's not the original case...
     
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    I have a 64 frets replaced with slightly taller ones.

    I can say categorically there is no need to make neck pocket deeper to accommodate that. 64s in my experience have the neck far too shallow to begin with - compared to earlier strats ie slab boards.

    Honestly this is the first time I have heard of this being done ;)

    Dodgy for sure.
     
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    There are too many pieces of the jigsaw missing here. Where is the close-up of the end of the neck? What about the routs in the body? The guitar was played so much, some of the electrics needed changing, but the back of the neck shows no real signs of wear? And the finish on the body looks really glassy, not at all like nitro after half a century.

    As for re-routing the neck pocket. Huh?
     
  14. henderman

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    The range of fret height from Fender vintage to super jumbo is less than .020" and the saddles adjustment for action height has more than enough room to use any fret available since day 1.

    So routing a neck pocket of a real Strat that already works is not needed for the reason they claim and somewhere between dumb and red flag shady if you ask me.
     
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    I've had two vintage fenders neck angle changed by having some wood cut out of the neck pocket. Both needed a rather big shim to lower the neck angle. This left a big ugly gap between the neck and the neck pocket. Both guitars sounded noticeably better after the mod. I figure that's probably the deal with the guitar in the link but the seller doesn't understand what actually happened
     
  16. Bazz Jass

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    Scary stuff!
     
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    To me it means don't buy before holding it up close and trying it out
     
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    This is a nice guitar for what it is, and this auction has a week to go, but something tells me the seller will pull it from auction because the bids aren't what he wants them to be.
     
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    Both were refins with issues. I wouldn't have don't it on an all original one
     
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    Lack of tool marks on the saddles makes me think they are repops; they sure 'look' old however.

    ~JH
     
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