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cap and resistor values for treble bleed.

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by jwhit007, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. jwhit007

    jwhit007 Senior Stratmaster

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    What are some recommendations? The guitar has the Grease bucket tone circuit with TS pup's. On a Seymour Duncan site they recommend a .002 Cap and 100K resistor. Just curious what you guys use.
    Thanks
     
  2. Tele like it is

    Tele like it is Left is right! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Sound like most of the circuits I have seen...
     
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  5. louis cyfer

    louis cyfer i know nothing

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    don't need it. just do the fezz parka, or 50's wiring mod. no extra components, and the treble roll off is solved without effecting the low end.
     
  6. jwhit007

    jwhit007 Senior Stratmaster

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    I wasn't asking about other wiring diagrams, that's why I named the thread "cap and resistor values for treble bleed," as that's what I'm interested in.
    Thanks though.;)


    EDIT: That came off a little rude...not my intention, sorry.
     
  7. louis cyfer

    louis cyfer i know nothing

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    no worries. i am suggesting something much simpler and better sounding. once you compare the trreble bleed to a 50's mod, you will understand. the guitar sounds the same as you roll off the volume. no treble loss, no low end loss.
     
  8. Hugh

    Hugh Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    That's what I'm seeing as I read up on it. With the bleed, the more you roll back the volume, the more you roll off the lows. And it "sounds" like the treble increases. With the 50's mod, rolling back the volume does just that, while retaining the tone.

    So it depends on what appeals to the player.
     
  9. jwhit007

    jwhit007 Senior Stratmaster

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    Well then, the 50's mod seems to be more ideal. Kind of like getting your cake and eating it too.
     
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    louis cyfer i know nothing

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    exactly.
     
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    you guys have a link for that wiring diagram?:oops:
     
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    Thanks for the link Hugh..I have several Strats with the treble bleed and can now compare them with the 50's wiring..
     
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    Keep us posted...I'm very interested.
     
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    0.001mf capacitor in parallel with 150k ohm resistor does it for me.
    I prefer 5% tolerances, although I probably cannot hear a difference with 10%.
     
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    The downside of the 50's wiring is the interaction between the volume and tone pots. Here's a good quick summary from WalterW on thegearpage.net:

    If you leave the tone up most of the time, it may never be an issue for you.
     
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    How many watts ? 1/4 watt?
     
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    A standard 1/4 watt is more than enough. You could use an 1/8 watt if you are limited on space.
     
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    i use linear pots for volume, so the dropping really fast in volume is not an issue.
     
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    I hear you asking one question, but I cant help but notice you have the Greesebucket? Are you trying to replicate that? Or are you trying to do the treble bleed?
    Am I mistaken in believing that they are different?

    I had the Greesebucket on a set of TexMex...and it appeared to do more than what I suppose a treble bleed does, but then again Ive never tried a treble bleed.
     
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    Top man Sprocket, don't think any mod will work with the greasebucket; it's a start from scratch rewire here?
    I crowbarred the greasebucket out, and started again with .02's and an Acne wiring kit.
    Still not happy, I think I want too much!
     

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