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Confused Trem Arms....

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by JohnV, Nov 24, 2017.

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  1. JohnV

    JohnV New Member!

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    First Post...
    So... some years back I finally went and got a player stand-in for my had-it-since-70-bought-used-cheap 64.(stories on request... briefly, the 64 was on a bench in pieces, stripped to bare wood and I bought it and have done things to it and just plain like it... it's hardly original... stained not sealed, schaller tuners, 2 PU failed and were rewound as needed, 5-way switch, mostly i grew up with it and nothing else feels right... decades will do that i guess)
    picked a 2006 Classic 60's mex. aside from oddly being a tad thicker than a Strat should be and way heavier, it's a workhorse. PU's were just fine but I put Lace hot golds on it to more match the tone of the 64. happy. not a picky guy.

    MY POINT HERE: foolish Moi has managed to confuse the trem arms! the original is damned near immaculate so that doesn;t help.... one handle is SLIGHTLY yellowish... it's also a bit longer out to the handle, a bit taller coming out of the block, and has a different milder curve where it does the right-angle out of the block.

    is this a topic covered ANYWHERE? A bit of googling turns up not much.
    thanks
     

  2. sikoniko

    sikoniko Strat-O-Master

    I don't understand what you are asking?

    I find many of the modern trem arms don't fit in the vintage blocks.
     

  3. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

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    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe
    The vintage blocks have a 10-32 US thread, many arms around have the European/Japanese M5 thread.
    However, the M5 is sometling like 98% the same as the US thread. Often you can use it nevertheless!!

    This has an interesting side effect: It starts to turn easily, if you screw it in further, it becomes more and more difficult. This however can be useful to avoid the sloppy arms that never stay at the position you want them to!

    If you want to try, do it your own risk. I certainly don't want you to destroy your vintage blocks...
     

  4. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I don't understand the question.
     

  5. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The guy has two tremolo arms, one imperial (64) and one metric (06) and can't tell the difference.
     
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  6. JohnV

    JohnV New Member!

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    kinda-pretty-much-sorta yeah. clearly I CAN tell a difference... noted some... what I CANT tell is which is from when... and I now have (thanks to folks here) a REASON for that (very similar threads) and a clue as to what to look at.
     

  7. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

    Take the arms to your local auto-parts store. Usually they have a thread gauge hanging with the nuts and bolts. gently screw it into a couple and see which is metric and which is imperial.
    Likewise, you can download a visual thread pitch gauge to your phone and probably match them visually.
     

  8. Bodean

    Bodean Rock N Roll Ain't Noise Pollution Strat-Talk Supporter

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    2 guitars.... 2 trem arms..... 50/50 chance of getting the right one in the right hole.......:D:D:D:D:D
     
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  9. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Can I phone a friend? :p
     
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  10. Bodean

    Bodean Rock N Roll Ain't Noise Pollution Strat-Talk Supporter

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  11. Chont

    Chont Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 25, 2012
    Pennsylvania
    Its a thread about threads ?

    Twisted

    Badum tssss
     

  12. Bodean

    Bodean Rock N Roll Ain't Noise Pollution Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Lets do it proper:D
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  13. sensei

    sensei Strat-Talker Gold Member

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    This is the vintage arm. They were a bit longer and taller coming out of the block, especially from 1964 on, and all of them had a milder curve.