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Crack in headstock

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by Scottz, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

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    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    I just noticed this. Should I try to do something about it or just leave it alone?

    IMG_20180307_182826.jpg
     
  2. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 27, 2018
    North Central NC
    Does it go right through where the tuner's screw is? If so, that may be the cause... too small a pilot hole for the screw. I'd probably leave it alone unless the end of the head breaks off. Then I'd dowel it and glue it back on.
     
  3. johnnymg

    johnnymg Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 5, 2015
    Central Coast Ca
    Please post a pic of the other side of the headstock.

    If this is more than just a surface/finish crack I would be inclined to:
    • Remove the tuner
    • Thin out some wood glue and force the glue into the crack with high pressure air.
    • Squeeze the crack shut with a wood clamp
    • Open up (very slightly) the hole for the tuner screw
    Edit: Just saw you updated image. Yup, that crack should be repaired. How long has it been there?
     
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  4. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

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    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    Here it is. It's on a 1987 E series MIK.

    IMG_20180307_184815.jpg
     
  5. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

    Age:
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    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    Not sure how long, I just noticed it today. The tuner and screw have been there about 30 years since the factory, I've never removed them.
     
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  6. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    38
    Apr 2, 2016
    Philly, PA
    I got a crack in the headstock of my old 1990 ‘57 AVRI and had it repaired by a luthier. Although mine was on the low E tuner.
     
  7. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

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    Littleton, Colorado
    What's the best way to thin Titebond? Water?
     
  8. johnnymg

    johnnymg Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 5, 2015
    Central Coast Ca
    Thinning info is given in this link:
    http://www.titebond.com/frequently_asked_questions.aspx

    "Can Titebond Wood Glues be thinned?
    Most of our water-based wood glues can be thinned with water up to 5% by weight or by volume. Adding more than 5% water to our glues will decrease the bond strength. Titebond Liquid Hide Glue is thinned by gently heating the bottle in a pan of warm water. Titebond Polyurethane Glue may only be thinned by placing the bottle into a pan of warm water."
     
  9. The Ballzz

    The Ballzz Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 26, 2014
    LAS VEGAS , NV
    Here's how I would do this. First I would resign myself to the possibility/probability of "in the long run" having to in some way repair that screw hole, maybe not, read on and you'll see why. Remove all strings and tuners. Plan your clamping method and pre-set the clamps in a handy spot. I would then force either a slightly larger screw or nail into that screw hole to help open the crack a little to allow the thinned/warmed glue to penetrate into the depths of the crack. Remove screw/nail, apply clamps and let dry overnight to 24 hours or even 48 hours if the glue got thinned with water. If the screwhole got enlarged too much from the larger screw/nail, you may need to fill it. One way that would avoid drilling and doweling would be to simply use a toothpick with glue to "shrink the hole, the same as we often do with loose strap button screws.

    Now, with all that said, if you're confident of being able to work fairly quickly, the thinnest available CA glue (AKA "Super Glue") would wick into the opened up crack, bond well and clean up to an almost invisible repair with a fresh, well and carefully operated razor blade as a scraper. To use it as a scraper you do it like this >>/ with the arrows being the direction of motion and the "/" being the single edged razor blade.

    One Source For Thin CA Glue:

    https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/adhesive-bob-smith-industries-insta-cure-super-thin

    and a tiny applicator tip:

    https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/adhesive-bob-smith-industries-extra-fine-extender-tip


    If all this scares you, take it to a good tech or woodworker. If you were here in Vegas, I'd do it for you overnight for about $50 +/-, depending on if the finish needed repair!

    Just Sayin'
    Gene
     
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  10. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

    Age:
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    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    Thanks for the replies. I'll try to take that tuner off tonight and get a better look.
     
  11. Lonn

    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Probably been there for years. Play it.
     
  12. jtees4

    jtees4 Strat-O-Master

    592
    Nov 18, 2011
    NYish
    I'd leave it alone. If it ever breaks I'd deal with it.
     
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  13. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

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    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    Here's a better look. Untitled4.jpg
     
  14. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

    Age:
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    235
    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    May be time to forget about the glue.... IMG_20180308_193714.jpg
     
  15. Sarnodude

    Sarnodude Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 26, 2015
    Mukilteo
    A shop that sells R/C model airplanes is also a good source of CA adhesives.
     
  16. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

    Age:
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    235
    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    This has happened since November, I had it in for a fret dress and setup then.
     
  17. Sangetsu

    Sangetsu Strat-Talker

    Age:
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    164
    Oct 6, 2017
    Tokyo
    Officer: "How'd this crack get in the headstock"?

    Me: "I have no idea, but it ain't mine."

    Officer: "It was sitting next to you in the car."

    Me: "Yeah, but my friend put it there just before y'all pulled us over."

    Officer: "You mean the guy who was driving."

    Me: "Yeah, that's right, he said, 'Hey bro, hold onna this guitar while I talks to the poh-leece."

    Officer: "Well, your friend says that it's your guitar, and your crack."

    Me: "He's lying!" "Hey Raj, what are you lying for, you know that guitar is yours"?

    Officer: "His name is Raj? He told me it was Henry."

    Me: "Hell yeah, that's Raj, he's lying about everything!"

    Officer: "Well Raj has some pictures of you on his phone playing that guitar."

    Me: "That ain't me!"

    Officer: "Well it sure as hell looks like you, you're wearing your McDonald's uniform, and it has your name tag on it."

    Me: "Oh yeah, that is me, but it's Raj's guitar, he loaned it to me."

    Officer: "All right, turn around and put your hands behind your back."
     
  18. StillAlive&Well

    StillAlive&Well Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
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    Oct 4, 2014
    Frog, Texas
    It was in your pocket.
    But these aren't my pants.
     
  19. Scottz

    Scottz Strat-Talker

    Age:
    49
    235
    Oct 27, 2017
    Littleton, Colorado
    So, I'm thinking a Warmoth roasted maple.
     
  20. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    Nah, just reinforce it and play it.
     
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