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Discussion in 'Home Recording Studio' started by Omar, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Jazzer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    I found a second hand mini-pc, Lenovo Thinkcentre M92p (type 3227)

    CPU: 3rd generation Intel Core i5-3550 3.30GHz
    RAM: 4GB DDR3 (8GB +25euro)
    HDD: 500GB SATA 7200 rpm
    OS: Windows 10 Home
    Price: 217euro

    for full specs https://support.lenovo.com/es/en/solutions/pd024422

    Would you recommend it?

    Edit: I have Steinberg UR424
     
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  2. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    With 8GB of RAM it should do the job. It's probably better than what I use.
     
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  3. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Jazzer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    Would I get zero latency with Steinberg UR242? The pc has USB 3.0
     
  4. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    I have no idea, I think you'd be lucky to get genuine zero latency with any kit. Again, it's much higher spec than what I use, which manages about 12ms on a good day with a tailwind... :)
     
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  5. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 13, 2011
    Music City TN
    There's no such thing as "zero latency" in a digital system.
    Any time there's A>D, and D>A happening latency occurs.
    It might be reduced to a few samples, but it's there.
     
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  6. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Sheffield, UK
    It also depends what Windoze 10 is doing in the background.
     
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  7. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Strat-Talker

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    Dec 16, 2014
    Atlanta, GA
    That's similar to my PC except that I have a 256 GB SSD, 2 TB 7200 rpm SATA and 16 GB RAM.
     
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  8. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Jazzer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    Of course, an absolute zero latency doesn't exist.

    As long as I don't use Chrome, everything will be fine ;)

    Do you use it for recording? Do you like it / recommend it?
     
  9. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Strat-Talker

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    Dec 16, 2014
    Atlanta, GA
    Yes. But I just use it with Audacity which is more recording software than a fully functional MIDI DAW like Reaper. Having the SSD helps overall system performance from graphics editing to recording to gaming.
     
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  10. fezz parka

    fezz parka Duke of DILLIGAF Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2011
    Right behind you...
    I'd recommend a MacBook Pro running Logic. :)
     
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  11. nickmsmith

    nickmsmith Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jul 28, 2011
    Pawnee, Indiana
    That should work. Latency isn’t really a problem. You can just record to the other tracks in time, then move it over until it lines up. Never much of an issue.

    I’ll be finding out soon, how much of an issue it will be with midi drums. Because with audio, it’s a super easy fix.

    4gb of ram should get it done for you.

    30 years ago, even 15 years ago, a setup like that would be an absolute dream for any home studio person.

    I was recording on Windows ME/XP/vista and cool edit pro with a small fraction of that ram, not all that long ago.
     
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  12. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Jazzer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    SSD is faster than SATA, but the latter is more economical. I’d be using Reaper, I find it good and user friendly.

    Mucho dinero hermano :(

    Thank you for your input :)
     
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  13. carver

    carver The East Coast Strangler Strat-Talk Supporter

    4 g of ram is light for most recording software. it will work, but you may run out of disk space and have the recording stop mid session if you dont remember to close every other program running

    I use a mac book pro from 2012 running garageband and its fine for what I need. I have 8 g of ram in that computer. it came with 4. quick and easy upgrade.

    I do need to get a new machine sooner or later, but I figure I will run this mac book until it dies. it has served me well.

    I tend to have problems with it from time to time if I am running recording software with patches and anything over 12 tracks, but all I have to do to fix that is make sure nothing else is open other than the software.

    I know garageband isnt exactly the best out there.

    My recordings turn out just fine and I honestly dont spend much time on them. if I wanted to really dive in I would probably be going with a different program. but I am lucky.. My jam room has a great sound to it all by its self. my mics are good, and they are placed in what I would consider the right spots. the software doesnt need to do much other than capture and mix levels.

    it works for me, but I am aware that there are plenty of other better programs for recording software.
     
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  14. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    My Amiga 500 +512KB Rampack could run the bass sequencer and a sample and control the Yamaha drum machine. The recording had to be done on tape.:)

    I have absolutely no latency problems with MIDI drums, or anything else, I can't remember the last time I did.
     
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  15. BallisticSquid

    BallisticSquid Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 12, 2016
    US
    I have a Lenovo PC that is coming up on 5 years old that works fine for recording. It is a spec similar to what you outline, an i5 intel processor (not sure what gen, but an older one for sure) running Windows 8. I skipped the Windows 10 upgrade :). Not sure how much RAM I have...either 4 or 8GB. Upgrading to 8 from 4GB shouldn't be too pricey.

    I'm not using an SSD. I use Reaper as well and don't have any latency issues. My soundcard is a Yamaha Audiogram 6.

    Do you plan on running anything like Amplitube also, or are you using an outboard guitar processor...or micing your amp? Something like Amplitube will increase you PC horsepower needs.
     
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  16. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    Up until about three weeks ago I was recording on an AMD E1 1.4GHz Laptop, 8GB RAM and Windows 7. Then for just over a week on an AMD E2, 1.8Ghz, 8 GB and Windows 8.1. This week I'm using an AMD A8 2.2GHz, 8GB RAM and Windows 10.

    Reaper, like me, can't tell the difference. :)
     
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  17. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    That's better tgan what I have. I use a 4 years old laptop with an i3 CPU and 8 gigs of ram. The latency I get, as reported by Reaper, is between 6 and 9 ms. That is way, way less than the jitter produced by me.
     
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  18. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    That's a nice rig but way pricier than 217 euros. Plus 60 for Reaper...
     
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  19. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

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    Jan 12, 2016
    Lil' Rhody
    I can't speak for the prices where you're from, but that machine will get the job done.
    Get the 8GB of RAM, or buy the system with 4GB, and upgrade to 16GB yourself later on. :thumb:
     
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  20. nickmsmith

    nickmsmith Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jul 28, 2011
    Pawnee, Indiana
    That’s good to hear. We were just going to use EZdrummer2 with the (very realistic) preset beats, for our songs, but I think running midi into EZD2 with an electronic drum set will make it a lot more interesting sounding.
     
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