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Did hipsters ruin music???

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by mikej89, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. mikej89

    mikej89 Strat-O-Master

    Age:
    28
    885
    May 12, 2016
    River Falls, WI
    Every hipster I've talked to is a 'music expert', but funny how none of them make good music. It's like having such broad expertise seems to be a major limitation...
     
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  2. nhsdpl

    nhsdpl Senior Stratmaster

    Apr 21, 2012
    West Australia
    I wish Monte was still here . . . . :(
     
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  3. Cuban

    Cuban Strat-Talker

    102
    Mar 18, 2017
    UK
    Dont blame the hipsters.
    I blame terrible chart music and everything from 1999 onwards
     
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  4. carolinaeasy

    carolinaeasy Senior Stratmaster


  5. Yaralag

    Yaralag Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    46
    Aug 28, 2014
    Colorado
    We’ve previously had lengthy threads attempting to define what a Hipster is. We need to know your definition before we can adequately determine if they have indeed ruined music. ;)
     

  6. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    The EU
    ^This.
    And probably the scarcity of weed amongst musicians compared to the 70s.
     

  7. kchurch

    kchurch Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 27, 2011
    Ontario, CANADA
    Not hipsters, they are merely victims. Everyone knows it was MTV that ruined music.
     

  8. Cuban

    Cuban Strat-Talker

    102
    Mar 18, 2017
    UK
    Speak for yourself! ;)
     

  9. suncrush

    suncrush Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 25, 2014
    Pittsburgh
    I see the old people are *****ing about the young people's music again.

    Remember, the day Woodstock opened, the #1 song was In the year 2525.
     

  10. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    May 21, 2010
    In my own little world
    The "Music Industry" ruined music, maybe they think they're hipsters.
     
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  11. HTSMetal

    HTSMetal Strat-Talker

    146
    Jan 16, 2014
    Satan's Armpit, KY
    Corporations destroyed music when they distilled it down into a formula:

    A section + B section x Dance breakdown + Autotune(disposable popstar) = crapsh!t
     
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  12. Chont

    Chont Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 25, 2012
    Pennsylvania
    My neighbor ruined music. He’s such a douche
     

  13. LeicaBoss

    LeicaBoss Strat-O-Master Strat-Talk Supporter

    759
    Sep 4, 2015
    New Jersey
    Hipster drummers tend to be in exactly 7 different bands simultaneously.

    This would lead you to believe that hipsters create music, but this is misleading.

    Being in 7 bands simply provides (assuming the bands attempt to rehearse or play an average of 1.5x / week) the hipster 42 monthly opportunities to blow off a commitment. This is not simple and requires great dedication.

    • "With all that's going on in the world, how can I worry about music today?"
    • With the tone of political discourse, it was important for me to console my cat instead of learning my drum parts
    • My fixie broke down and I just walked back home
    • I was busy shelving books at the thrift shop
    • Binge watching Gilmore Girls on Netflix
    • Barry's beard was freaking me out, man
    • What IS a gig anyway? It's really just a social construct and I'm not into constructs
    • I found these killer boat shoes and sold my snare to get them
    • Mustache wax didn't firm up in time
    • My mom was making me clean the basement
     

  14. carolinaeasy

    carolinaeasy Senior Stratmaster

    I'm not old and I am *****ing.
     

  15. davidKOS

    davidKOS Retired Performer Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 28, 2012
    California
    Actually the corporate influence in music has been there ever since there were record companies.

    I think the late 70's was when the suits and hipsters began really messing things up:

    http://www.spike.com/articles/fm8o7q/the-top-10-classic-albums-that-accidentally-ruined-music

    "Frampton Comes Alive! literally changed music overnight and turned the record industry into very big business. Think of it as theStar Wars/Jaws of the music biz. Fleetwood Mac’s 1977 Rumours is a close second in this category, but it’s Frampton Comes Alive! that officially gave the music industry its ‘blockbuster’ frame of mind. ....The fact that Frampton Comes Alive! went on to become the biggest selling live album ever in such a short period of time showed that there was big money to be made in music. This made labels totally rethink everything and pushed music further away from its artistic roots and brought it face-to-face with Wall Street. It ushered in the era of pop stars and turned musicians into products and brands overnight."

    https://www.wwnorton.com/college/music/rockhistory/outlines/ch10.htm

    good article

    "By the late 1970s stations were heavily formatted
      • Program directors or consultants calling the shots
      • Disk-jockeys choosing less of the music
    1. Long tracks were no longer considered "radio friendly"
      • Did not leave enough time for commercials
      • Listeners would change the channel
      • The ideal length for a radio friendly track was about four to five minutes
    2. Major corporations invested in the music business
    3. Music from the last half of the decade was designed specifically for radio play"
    1. Realization that an unimaginable amount of money could be made
      • Emergence of the goal to create the "big album"
      1. Multinational corporations began investing in music
        • They had no experience in music
        • Were not interested in anything but the bottom line
        • They bought record labels hoping to cash in on another Frampton phenomenon
      2. Concerts moved to stadiums and arenas
      3. Musicians cashed in on the new record-setting concert ticket sales and record sales
      4. Lifestyles of musicians on major labels became excessive"
        • The problems with the quest for the Big Album
          1. Encouraged a conservative attitude in the record industry
          2. Less willingness to take chances on a band that might sell only 350,000 records
          3. The industry became obsessed with the "big album" bottom line
          4. How the music sounded was less important than the income generated

    Read this book too:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Beatle...&linkCode=w00&linkId=&creativeASIN=0195341546

    "Written with verve and style, How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'n' Roll shakes up our staid notions of music history and helps us hear American popular music with new ears."
     

  16. amagras

    amagras Strat-Talker

    391
    Oct 26, 2016
    Ontario
    People who only support artist who perform on TV or have big front covers ruined music. There is still good music everywhere, we just have to look harder and talk about it, spread the word, share links..
     

  17. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Fa-ra-ra-ra-raaa, ra ra ra raa! Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 19, 2011
    red barn, USA

  18. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    May 21, 2010
    In my own little world
    What do young people know about music? bah.

    Yes, I do remember August 1969 and that song, being a kid I probably quite liked it at the time.
     

  19. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Victoria TX
    Exactly. Look deeper and you'll find tons of great music. Skip the major labels and their terrible pop and robot-voiced rap.
     

  20. Highway Star

    Highway Star Strat-Talker

    How very true :thumb: Sadly the good bands and musicians often have a hard time to support themselves on their music.
     
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