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Did hipsters ruin music???

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by mikej89, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. Monkeyboy

    Monkeyboy Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 23, 2015
    Ghost Dog Heart
    No, the world is in a shambles. Always has been , always will be :whistling:
    Things were okay until the rise of homo sapiens ;)
     

  2. Stark

    Stark Ghost of Johnny Thunders Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Jul 16, 2011
    Richmond Annex, CA
    There sure are lots of pitchforks and tiki torches lit up here....you guys must be pretty weak if anyone is able to “ruin music” for you.
     
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  3. conehead

    conehead Strat-Talker

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    way out there
    I always thought the Beatles "ruined" music.
     
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  4. Green Craig

    Green Craig Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 15, 2012
    Michigan
    This description sounds pretty darn hipstery...and I'm the guy who's spoken aloud the sentence "They're a pretty obscure band, you probably haven't heard of them," before.
     
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  5. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Strat-O-Master

    556
    Jan 5, 2017
    Almost heaven
    That's one word for it, I guess
     
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  6. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    That's because there were only 3 networks to choose from, and maybe 1 or 2 local UHF stations.

    Now we have a vast, vapid wasteland of hundreds of channels with nothing on but mind numbing schlock, that caters to the lowest common denominator between commercials.

    Ask me why I don't even have cable anymore. :rolleyes:
     

  7. Sarnodude

    Sarnodude Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 26, 2015
    Mukilteo
    I hate when Cher uses it... Sounds like she is gargling into a microphone. Annoying to the max.
     
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  8. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    I guess I'll have to find some red jeans in my size....

    Hipsterness aside, you've got to warn people when you introduce them to a new music style.

    Challenging = this ain't gona be 12 bar blues in 4/4

    Nu = it's going to hit a lot harder than Pat Metheny

    -

    Think of when your friends who used to refer to Steely Dan as a Jazz band, would come over and browse through your albums.

    They would look at your Miles Davis section, and immediately find Bltches Brew (because of the cover art) "Hey can I borrow this? Everyone is always talkin' about Miles"

    You would say "Uh......why don't your start with something a little less Challenging......" and hand them Kind Of Blue.

    You did not have to be a Hipster to know that Brew was not a good point of entry for a future Miles fan.
     
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  9. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I try to avoid listening to anything by Cher if at all possible.
     

  10. Duotone

    Duotone Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 12, 2016
    Norway
    Yes! And boy did they ruin it for something better.
     
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  11. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    Actually this sort of thing is Hipsterness at it's finest. If a buddy of mine wanted to borrow Brew, then dammit, he borrowed Brew. Who am I to censor what he listens to because he "can't handle it?" Awful damned presumptuous if you ask me.
    If he didn't like Brew, maybe then you hand him Blue and say "don't give up on Miles until you try this."
     

  12. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Nov 14, 2013
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    Yes, don't eat that filet mignon, start with this less challenging hamburger. :D
     

  13. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    If listening at work, you may care to re-read your job description. Then report to HR. :sneaky:
     
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  14. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    Sometimes you have to be a gentle guiding hand.

    If someone wanted to hear what Reggae or Dub was, would I let them leave with this Damian Marley wax because the cover art was cool?



    Hell no, because although it's an amazing track, it is again challenging and not the cliche' representation of what Dub or Reggae is.

    They might well listen to it and say "That's too insane for my Midwestern brain" and never listen again.

    But, if I gently give them some Toots and the Maytals, or Bob Marley as their cherrybreaker, they have a much better chance of enjoying it and exploring further.
     

  15. Percy

    Percy Most Honored Senior Member


    A few decades off....But we do know who buys the music....

     
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  16. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    I really don't understand your philosophy. If you like something, why would you not want to turn your friends on to it? Believe me, I would love it if my BFF liked the same stuff I do instead of the utterly mindless pop crap that he listens to. I would jump at the chance to turn him on to *****es Brew.

    @Mr. Lumbergh was right, it seems presumptuous, and a bit pompous to decide what other people should listen to. I hope you're not a congressman.

    just IMHO
     
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  17. Eoraptor1

    Eoraptor1 Senior Stratmaster

    Aug 4, 2008
    Niagara Falls, NY
    This is why I root for the Apes.



    JAMES
     
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  18. jvin248

    jvin248 Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 10, 2014
    Michigan
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    -iTunes and the buy just a single song (we all know those old LPs only had two good songs and padding for the rest, priced at $15)
    -Internet Diffusion of genres - you can find anything now.
    -Google searches that are tailored to you that take you down narrower and narrower corridors of the Internet.
    -Google advertising tied to your searches showing up everywhere.

    .
     

  19. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    You already know that I'm on my 3rd term.

    I'm giving myself a giant tax break, getting rid of health care for millions and soon Strat-Talk will be a pay access site once I'm done with Net Neutrality.

    Vote for Vid in 2020 !!!!!!!!
     

  20. Monkeyboy

    Monkeyboy Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 23, 2015
    Ghost Dog Heart
    Well, some anthropologists theorize that Hipster Sapiens is the first distinct step
    in the de-evolution of humanity , on the way to precisely such a scenario :whistling:
     
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