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Differences between Oak Grigsby and Fender?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Vindibona1, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. Vindibona1

    Vindibona1 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    5-way switches.... I know that some people order Oak Grigsby and some people order whatever the standard Fender switch is.

    Are there any differences in wiring, quality and performance? I'm particularly interested in wiring variances.

    Anecdote:

    A couple years ago I had done my first 7-way wiring mod and went by the step by step directions EXACTLY (see Breja Toneworks on YouTube). It didn't work. When I took the diagram to my local tech he drew some changes on the diagram and when I switched the wiring to match the edited diagram it worked as it should.

    I recall that the author of the Breja Toneworks vid said something about it being a standard Oak Grigsby switch. So now as I contemplate other mods I just want to know if there are differences and if so what are they.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Ronkirn

    Ronkirn Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    72
    May 26, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    the Oak Grigsby was the original choice... today that's become more blurred since the #2 maker, CRL, now owns the Oak Grigsby name, and many Oak and CRL switches look and are identical..

    Ron Kirn
     
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  3. Skinny Nitro

    Skinny Nitro Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jul 21, 2013
    Merseyside UK
  4. ToneShapers

    ToneShapers New Member!

    Age:
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    Dec 20, 2015
    Vero Beach, FL
    I know this is an old topic, but people will find it via search. As a manufacturer of guitar wiring products that buys both CRL and Oak-Grigsby direct from Electroswitch, allow me to clarify a few points:

    "since the #2 maker, CRL, now owns the Oak Grigsby name, and many Oak and CRL switches look and are identical"

    CRL is the original, used in 1950 in the Broadcaster, and subsequently in every Broadcaster, Nocaster, Telecaster, and Stratocaster made through CBS' ownership of the company. CRL is a company in its own right. Oak-Grigsby is a company in its own right. Neither owns the other, both are owned by Electroswitch which manufactures neither. CRL manufacturers their products in North Carolina. Oak-Grigsby manufactures their products in Mexico. Regarding looking identical, that's an overstatement, though they look similar compared to other switches (Yamaha, Schaller). To say that they are identical is also not accurate.

    "Fender switches are made by Electroswitch in their Mexican facility"

    Electroswitch doesn't make switches per se, it's Oak-Grigsby that manufactures in Mexico.
     
  5. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    Interesting, yes that is worth digging up an old thread for! There is sometimes discussion on here about where parts are made, I tend to assume it's China these days unless I hear otherwise. So Fender use Mexican made Oak-Grigsby switches in their US & Mexican Strats? Is it just switches or do they make pots & other stuff too?
     
  6. Skinny Nitro

    Skinny Nitro Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jul 21, 2013
    Merseyside UK
    Electro Switch Corp acquired the rights to manufacture CRL in 1992 and acquired Oak Grigsby in 2003.
    They are a manufacturing company producing various types of switch used in Defense, atomic energy and many other areas. Guitar switches are a small part of their operations. The Mexico factory has been open for around 3-4 years and produces most of the non CRL style switches 3, 4, 5 way and superswitches. Most Fender packaging for these switches is now marked Made in Mexico although some specialist superswitches are still available labelled Made In USA. Could be old stock with a low turnover rate.
     
  7. Namelyguitar

    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    61
    Jun 3, 2009
    Mobile Bay
    What helped me down the 'which switch' path several years ago was confirming the part number on a particular new in stores, pricey Fender Stratocaster, and ordering that same part as a replacement on a guitar that I consider a keeper. I don't recall which of those two made the part. :whistling: But, it works like a champ!