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"Drone" on C note? Help

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by ttttrigg3r, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. ttttrigg3r

    ttttrigg3r New Member!

    Age:
    30
    2
    Sep 13, 2018
    Los Angeles
    Hi there,
    I'm playing unplugged on my Squier strat and I hear this this droning every time I hit the C note on B string, fret 1. It's very noticeable because no other notes does this. Also happens when I play C on G string, fret 5. When I play C on the other strings, it's there but not as loud. The droning sounds like it's coming from the pickguard area or possibly inside the body. I notice if I push a little against the bridge into the body, the droning doesn't happen.
    What's wrong with my guitar and how do I fix it?
     

  2. Hudman_1

    Hudman_1 Strat-Talker Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    49
    337
    May 12, 2018
    Gibraltar Michigan
    It’s called sympathetic resonance or sympathetic vibration.

    It’s common with guitars and pianos.

    There is a bunch of scientific info about the phenomenon on Google.
     
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  3. Strat Jacket

    Strat Jacket Senior Stratmaster

    May 11, 2018
    Illinois
    First things first:
    Change your strings and see if it changes. Oh, and welcome to Strat Talk!
     
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  4. Hudman_1

    Hudman_1 Strat-Talker Strat-Talk Supporter

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    337
    May 12, 2018
    Gibraltar Michigan
    Great advice.

    It also could be loose hardware vibrating: Loose screw, loose saddle, loose tuner button, etc.

    Give it a good inspection.
     
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  5. himijendrix

    himijendrix Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    71
    May 2, 2012
    Barrow Upon Soar, UK
    Everything has a 'natural frequency of vibration'. Seems like your guitar's frequency coincides with the frequency of the note C.

    You could try changing the guitar's mass to change the frequency, ie add some weights in the internal cavities.
     

  6. rgbedard

    rgbedard Strat-Talker Strat-Talk Supporter

    144
    Feb 3, 2018
    Santa Cruz, CA
    What @Hudman_1 said. Different C notes suggests resonance. I would look at your saddle screws, sounds like they could be uneven.
     
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  7. Textele

    Textele Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Oct 10, 2009
    Texas
    Trem springs ringing?

    Take the back plate off and play the note, then just touch the springs and see if the droning stops.

    If that is it, then stuff the springs with some cut foam and re-install.

    Or google - how to stop tremolo springs from ringing. There are many different ways to do it.

    Good luck!
     
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  8. ttttrigg3r

    ttttrigg3r New Member!

    Age:
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    Sep 13, 2018
    Los Angeles
    YES. THIS! I flick the springs and can hear a C note. This must be the cause.
    Will stuffing the springs with foam or a plastic tube cause any loss in tone? Will it affect overall quality of the "strat sound"?
     
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  9. Dave Harmon

    Dave Harmon Strat-Talker

    124
    Feb 18, 2016
    Right Here
    No....
     
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  10. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
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    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    I have a Takamine dreqdnaught does that....
    But on B notes
     

  11. Textele

    Textele Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Oct 10, 2009
    Texas
    It is a pretty common thing with Strats, and no it will have absolutely no effect on your tone. Except killing the drone sound.

    Glad you got it figured out and welcome to Strat-Talk!
     
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  12. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

    Jun 13, 2012
    Here
    Check string between nut and tuners, check trem springs.
     

  13. The Ballzz

    The Ballzz Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 26, 2014
    LAS VEGAS , NV
    Now that the cause has been ascertained, I would personally leave it as it is and "embrace" the added resonance! :D I'm betting that certain chords (probably A-minor, C, etc.) sound especially full, rich and lively! Think of it as a bit of added, natural reverb! I'm one of those folks who often looks towards turning flaws into features! :cool: Of course, this depends upon whether that resonance is actually "in tune" and complementary to the notes played, or a tiny bit off! :eek:

    Just My $.02,
    Gene
     

  14. rocknrollrich

    rocknrollrich Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    47
    Jan 8, 2016
    philadelphia
    I put some foam in the springs of my strat. It didn't change anything as far as i could tell.
    I saw a tip from someone on YouTube (of course).
    He wrapped one layer of plumber's tape around his springs.
    He claims it works. I didn't try it, but seems logical.
     
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  15. BobbyS

    BobbyS Strat-O-Master

    513
    Dec 11, 2011
    Los Lunas, NM
    I just re-tune the springs
     

  16. altar

    altar Strat-Talker

    460
    Oct 4, 2016
    USA
    I've used foam on the springs before too, it works great.