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Easy or hard?

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Strat Jacket, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Strat Jacket

    Strat Jacket Senior Stratmaster

    May 11, 2018
    Illinois
    Do you find it easy or hard to sing while you're playing?
    It's taken me the better part of 50 years to get to the point where I can do backing or harmony vocals along with playing (not just strumming) but I see so many young artists who handle it effortlessly and excel at it.
    Are you able to "walk and chew gum at the same time", or do you/did you find this multi-tasking difficult or impossible?
     
  2. GuitarMechanic

    GuitarMechanic Most Honored Senior Member

    Some songs are easy but some not so much. So my take is it depends on the song
     
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  3. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Yorkshire
    If only it was predictable. I can turn a simple song into a train wreck at the drop of a hat these days. I used to be much better when I did it regularly. :)
     
  4. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Lewisville, TX
    Easy to do your own stuff, harder to do others.
     
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  5. rolandson

    rolandson Most Honored Senior Member

    Easy.
    Comes naturally.
     
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  6. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Terra Incognita
    Nothing about playing an instrument is easy, the easy thing would be to not to do it at all.


    So cut yourself some slack. For me it depends on how comfortable I am with the tune. Can I carry out the chord progression without thinking about it?

    It took me three whole weeks to nail Boots of Spanish Leather. Took me another three to become comfortable enough to sing it while playing the fingerpicking pattern correctly.

    I still have problems remembering the whole lyrics without it in front of me, but it's a Dylan song what do you expect? It's a freaking novel of a song.

    Your voice is just like your hands you use to play guitar a muscle, you have to train that muscle memory of it. Takes some training, but you'll get there.

    Singing along songs you listen to helps a lot.
     
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  7. AncientAx

    AncientAx Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    Nov 24, 2010
    Maryland
    I can’t sing period .....
     
  8. Strat Jacket

    Strat Jacket Senior Stratmaster

    May 11, 2018
    Illinois
    For the most part, it seems when I try to sing along, I mess up the chords or picking progessions that I can normally do in my sleep if not singing.
    But I seem to be improving as of late.
     
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  9. Malurkey

    Malurkey Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 28, 2016
    Netherlands
    I can do this for a few easy songs. It takes a lot of practice...
     
  10. ukoldgit

    ukoldgit Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    67
    Feb 20, 2018
    Wiltshire UK
    Amplified I could break glass at 750 yards and hit an ear screetching off chord twelve decibels above a close encounter with a shoreside fog warning horn, but I can be very gentle with my strat as long as it's not plugged in:D (and nobody is listening)
     
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  11. Alan Crossley

    Alan Crossley Strat-O-Master

    Age:
    68
    667
    Nov 20, 2018
    Republic of Ireland
    I can't even talk when I'm trying to play! Singing would not, in anyway or at any time, be a consideration. My concentration takes up both of my grey cells with guitar in hand.:oops:
     
  12. Strat Jacket

    Strat Jacket Senior Stratmaster

    May 11, 2018
    Illinois
    Funny thing is, I can hum or whistle along with no issues whatsoever...?:thumbd:
     
  13. Alan Crossley

    Alan Crossley Strat-O-Master

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    667
    Nov 20, 2018
    Republic of Ireland
    Have you tried nailing boots of Italian leather?. In my experience, most of the leather on my Italian shoes is much softer. :cool:
     
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  14. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    62
    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    "Hard" is the short answer, especially as I'm not a particularly strong singer anyway. Playing bass lines that don't have a lot to do with the vocal line I'm singing I find hardest of all (doubly so if that happens to be a harmony to the main vocal). Singing while strumming a few chords is a lot less demanding.

    Remembering the words to any song at all if someone says "Play a song then Si" out of the blue is a killer for me. My brain just freezes!
     
  15. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Terra Incognita
    As much as I love leather boots, I cannot pull it off unfortunately. ;)
     
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  16. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    54
    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    ^^^ this

    Some songs I have no trouble strumming along to and singing. Others I can sing and play but mess up the strumming pattern (Ziggy Stardust). I can even (mostly) manage a couple fingerstyle songs, such as Girl From The North Country (but not at the same speed as Dylan).
    I can sing and play bass on some, but not others, and if the bass rhythm and the singing rhythm is different, forget it.
     
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  17. trapdoor2

    trapdoor2 Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    61
    Oct 25, 2017
    Nawth Alabama
    Hard. Nearly impossible. Give me a 3 chord strummer/children's song on a Uke and I can wallow my way thru. Otherwise, not happening.

    I can 'sing along' and pitch-match or harmonize (within reason) but can't do anything else at the same time (like breathe, blink, etc.).
     
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  18. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Terra Incognita
    I suggest you pick up the guitar and play along with the song on your phone /MP3 player.

    There's a glitch that you need to train and that is when the chord change happens and at which verse. If you train on that aspect you stumble less, which makes the chord progression smoother and you can time it in with the singing.

    Just keep playing with the song on and start singing along too. That helps me to get comfortable with a new song.
     
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  19. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Yorkshire
    Indeed. If I can remember any of the words, there's not a hope that I'll remember any of the chords, and vice versa... :)
     
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  20. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    54
    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    Yes, you have to work specifically on the hard bits, figure out where you place your voice in terms of what your fingers are doing...how to bring the two things together...not sure that makes sense. For example, for Neil Young’s Heart of Gold, the hard part for me was aligning my voice/the words with the strumming during “...and I’m getting old”. Just practiced that bit over and over.
    One I’m stumbling on and need to practice: the chorus of Tangerine (and Ziggy...).
     
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