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English is a funny language

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by jaybones, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    We have electricity dahn Sarf. I'm sure you'll love it when it reaches the depths of the frozen North....

    :p
     
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  2. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    It means dis gruntled as oposed to dat gruntled. There are probably other gruntleds as well
     
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  3. s5tuart

    s5tuart My Dad used to say.... Strat-Talk Supporter

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  4. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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  5. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    Just funny, could happen to anyone who tries to understand the English language, really don't see a problem. My grandchildren have the same conversations.
     
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  6. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    In a totally non-racist way, just stating an opinion, why do two people from the Middle East, having a normal conversation, sound as if they are about to kill each other. To Western ears, Arabic sounds very aggressive.
     
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  7. knh555

    knh555 Senior Stratmaster

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    Dec 6, 2016
    Massachusetts
    I've heard it said that English is one of the easiest languages to learn to speak poorly.
     
  8. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Jazzer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    You most likely heard a dialect. Some dialects are aggressive, others are softer. E.g. dialects in North Africa (Morocco, Algeria, etc) sound aggressive. They're mixed with other languages too. Not to mention that Arabic language has wide range of phonics.

    Unfortunately, Classical Arabic isn't used anymore among Arabs nowadays.
     
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  9. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 13, 2014
    Florida
    If fact, YES:

    grun·tled
    /ˈɡrən(t)ld/
    adjective
    HUMOROUS
    1. pleased, satisfied, and contented.
     
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  10. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 13, 2014
    Florida
    For instance, German, where you often go through a dozen or more words and 3x that amount of syllables before you get to the verb.
     
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  11. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 13, 2014
    Florida
    That is , in good part, because English does not have multiple genders assigned to inanimate objects, forcing you to choose the proper article for each. Example, in German, there is a different word for the article "the" to be used for " the knife", "the fork", and " the spoon". Likewise for the article "a". Living in Germany for several years and learning the language "off the street", I just made everything neuter and they gave me a pass on it.
     
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  12. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 27, 2018
    North Central NC
    I used "gruntled" in a tongue in cheek post on a board once, and was told it wasn't a word. I ignored the SOB.
     
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  13. BallisticSquid

    BallisticSquid Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 12, 2016
    US
    How about when the same word with the same spelling can be pronounced differently and mean completely different things.

    Record: The band went into the studio to record their new record.

    Bass: My bass player likes to fish for bass.

    I'm sure there are others. This must drive non-English speakers insane when trying to learn the language!


    Then there's George Carlin's bit about driving on a parkway, but you park in a driveway...
     
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  14. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    It also has very simple verb conjugation:
    I play
    You play
    He/she/it plays
    We play
    They play.

    The idioms and prepositions, though, the shades of meaning...

    Get in
    Get out
    Get off
    Get up
    Get down
    Get over
    Get through
    Get behind
    Get in front of
    Get on...

    I’m very glad I learned it as a mother tongue!!:confused:
     
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  15. knh555

    knh555 Senior Stratmaster

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    Dec 6, 2016
    Massachusetts
    Grammatically speaking then, Chinese is a much easier language to learn than the lot of them, once you get your head around the paradigm shifts involved - little tense, no articles, words don't change pronunciation when they change part of speech and so on and so forth.
     
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  16. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 13, 2014
    Florida
    I read that book...did you read it, too ? No ? Well, shame on you for not going to the well of knowledge.
     
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  17. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
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    You didn't read post #7 & watch the clip then?

    There was also a George Carlin clip posted...... :whistling:
     
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  18. knh555

    knh555 Senior Stratmaster

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    Dec 6, 2016
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    My point was more that there are tons of people who learn to communicate effectively using English without mastering the language. I find that inspiring and it helped me get over my insecurities learning and using a foreign language myself.

    It's amazing how good some people's "bad English" can be.
     
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  19. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
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  20. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy BushBaby Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    Tucson

    Yes...a person who is pleased is gruntled.