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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Ahr Bee, Jan 14, 2017.

  1. Ahr Bee

    Ahr Bee New Member!

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    Jan 14, 2017
    Scotland
    hello Strat Talk!

    I've had the urge for a strat for a while, pretty much got my heart set on an Eric Johnson model but nowhere near me (that I know if) has one that I could play first

    what other strat models are closest to the EJ neck?

    I played the American Standard, the American Elite and the Eric Clapton artist series, the Elite was my least favourite of those 3

    I see people say sometimes they didnt like the EJ neck, wondering what it is that is love or hate about it?
     

  2. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Antisocial Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    The only person that knows if you will get on with any particular neck is you. Every one is slightly different, so to be sure you have to try lots of guitars, which is a real hardship. :D
     

  3. Ahr Bee

    Ahr Bee New Member!

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    Jan 14, 2017
    Scotland
    life can be a struggle sometimes :D

    I played some Custom Shop models when I was at the shop too, the most expensive one was probably my least favourite, it was £4k...although I migt not have given the attention it required as I had no intention of buying it!

    I guess I'll just have to take a chance if i can't find an EJ to play tho!

    I have Ibanez 'shredders'..., LP copies, nylon/steel acoustic....like them all but never had a strat, hoping I either like it straight away or adapt!...
     
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  4. Murphcaster

    Murphcaster Strat-O-Master

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    Oct 17, 2013
    Huntington, WV
    The biggest gripe I hear about the neck is the stickiness/tackiness as a result of the lacquer. That's an easy fix though if that turns out to be an issue.

    Regarding the neck profile, it is kinda chunky but not overwhelmingly so. It's a very soft V shape at the nut that seems to gradually turn into a C the farther you move up. Really comfortable.

    I played one a few years back and the thing I disliked about it was, ironically, what everyone else praises it for. The 12" fingerboard radius. I like playing a fretboard with more curve in it. That's just me though and I may be in the minority in that regard.

    I've often heard by EJ Strat owners that they're one of the best guitars Fender makes. While that's certainly subjective, they do seem to be quite popular. Best of luck.
     
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  5. Ahr Bee

    Ahr Bee New Member!

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    Jan 14, 2017
    Scotland
    thanks...my Ibanez and classical guitar have really flat necks -I think 14 on the Ibanez and even flatter on the classical which doesn't bother me so hopefully that's a plus! :)

    out of curiosity, and it may be hard to explain but what do you prefer about the curvier fretboards?

    also would it be fair to say the Eric Claption and American Standards neck is chunkier than the American Elite? as i say I noticed a difference between those models but not 100% sure what
     

  6. David Garner

    David Garner Senior Stratmaster

    It will also play out over time. I didn't do anything to mine and it isn't sticky at all.

    It's a 2009, and it took about a year, so if you're impatient, probably steel wool is the best route.
     
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  7. Textele

    Textele Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Oct 10, 2009
    Texas
    Whatever you decide make sure and play an EJ first or buy from a retailer with an excellent return policy.

    They are, by most accounts, wonderfully made guitars. And IMO they are all that and more! But different than really any other production Strat, spec-wise.

    I had one for a short time. On paper the specs spelled out what I thought would be the perfect Strat for me.

    After it was in hand I found out it definitely was not the case. The neck was not my cup of tea. And the guitar was set up very well but felt very stiff compared to my American Standard. I also damaged my Ulnar nerve (left elbow) a few years back and it almost immediately started to re-aggravate that area.

    Good luck and happy hunting to you!
     
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  8. Murphcaster

    Murphcaster Strat-O-Master

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    Oct 17, 2013
    Huntington, WV
    My playing style lends itself to playing barre chords with my thumb over the top of the fretboard (Hendrix, Frusciante, SRV, etc) which makes lovely chord embellishments much easier. While it's certainly possible to do this on a 12" radius board, I find it much more comfortable on boards that have more of a radius curve, and I'm all about comfort.

    The Clapton neck is definitely chunkier than an Am Elite. The Am Standard and Am Elite would be closer in comparison but still have a different feel. The Am Standard has the modern C with very little shoulder (at least the ones I've played) while the Am Elite morphs into a D shape that has a little more shoulder to it. Personally, the Am Elite seemed to fill/fit in my hands better than the Am Standard. Both are considered to have necks that fall in the thin-medium range. The EC, imo, would fit into the "chunky" range.
     
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  9. Sonny

    Sonny .. The smiles returning to the faces ..

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    Aug 9, 2009
    Ballerup Denmark
    NOOOO don't ruin your neck with steel wool ... I had the sticky problem with my Knopfler strat and solved it with a bottle of wax ... If you're interested I'll find the name for you ..
     
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  10. David Garner

    David Garner Senior Stratmaster

    I didn't, FWIW. But 0000 steel wool won't ruin the neck by any means.
     

  11. LOSTVENTURE

    LOSTVENTURE Strat-Talker

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    Jun 15, 2007
    CHARLOTTE, NC
    The necks on the new "Professional" line are really close to what you would see on the EJ. Try to find one of those and see what you think.
     

  12. jofish

    jofish Strat-O-Master

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    Aug 28, 2015
    Hull, UK
    Interesting you should mention that as I had the exact same experience. Thought the EJ I had a year or two back would be perfect for me but while it was a really nice guitar, there was a certain "stiffness" to the neck that I couldn't get over.

    Part of me regrets selling it as it was a great sounding guitar, but there was something about it that I couldn't quite get on with.

    Was yours a RW neck one too? In another thread around here about bound-neck Strats somebody mentioned that the binding meant that the fretboard edges couldn't be rolled and maybe that's what causes this perceived "stiffness".

    Anyway for the OP, definitely worth getting your hands on one to try for yourself
     

  13. Electgumbo

    Electgumbo Lost Planet Airman Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 26, 2010
    Scott La.
    I had a early model years ago. As @Textele stated... on paper it should be darn near the perfect Strat. But it wasn't. It had th sticky neck and overall didn't play as well as my other Strats. Sold it and moved on.
     

  14. AndSomeone

    AndSomeone Strat-Talk Member

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    Jan 2, 2018
    Santa Monica
    I am in the same position as you, I’m on the hunt for a new Strat and the EJ is on my list to try (but more so leaning to the AV 59) just on paper for both as for me to no shop around me has them in store. I do absolutely hate hate getting a guitar without trying and feeling. But if the return policy is good just order and try just don’t scratch it ha ha.

    As for neck on EJ what I’ve heard is some say it’s close to a Les Paul 60 vintage spec neck.
     

  15. Murphcaster

    Murphcaster Strat-O-Master

    553
    Oct 17, 2013
    Huntington, WV
    I'm gonna say it's close to Fender's '57 Soft V spec since that's what it comes with

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