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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Miotch, Jan 9, 2019.

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    Not really. Bigsby didn't invent that headstock shape, he simply copied it from some Eastern European instruments, just as Leo Fender did a few years later.
     
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    Gibson's wholesale cost on trems just went up
     
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    Blasphemy. Heretical !!
    I’ll go with “ugly”
     
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    No FS in Canada anymore. BB bought them.
     
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    You should check out Darrel Higham. He's got a Bigsby on almost every electric he owns.



     
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    montemerrick you can't stay the fool Strat-Talk Supporter

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    and those are its good points!
     
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    You have just shattered my world of complacent illusion.:oops:
     
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    The Strat wiggle stick is King for me, but a Bigsby when setup and used properly works just fine.

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    montemerrick you can't stay the fool Strat-Talk Supporter

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    i've never played one... but they look supa-cool - i almost put one on my tele, but decided to wait for some future archtop
     
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    This thing about a Bigsby is it really just gives you some shimmer. If you lean on it .... well it's not the best at full step bends. Just a little wiggle. Duane Eddy. Eddie Cochran. :)
     
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    They don't actually.

    The Gretsch family still own Gretsch, Fender just deals with the marketing/distribution for them.
     
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    Try restringing a guitar with a Bigsby before you think of buying one. I have one on my 330. It's hard to believe that anyone in the mid 20th Century would "design" a vibrato device that can only be restrung by a person with three hands.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    This is ugly Screenshot_2019-01-11-10-02-41.jpg
    Or this Screenshot_2019-01-11-10-05-52.jpg
     
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    Not too shabby on solid bodies either! ;) tapatalk_1481522994683-01.jpeg
     
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    Almost like a valve amp! But people still buy those too!
     
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    Yes, but there's a reason. A valve amp does have very distinct advantages over a tranny amp - in the right hands it sounds better, it's worth the extra bother, weight, & expense. The valve amp has not been superseded by modern technology - yet. I'm sure it will be one day, but not yet.

    Compare this to a Bigsby. Outdated & obsolete by 1954 because of a radical new design from a quirky old dude in Fullerton, CA. There is nothing a Bigsby will do that more recent & better designs can't do better.
     
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    I digress, can't please everyone!
    I also prefer modern ss or modelling amps. Its just taste.... Perhaps I have none ??o_O:)
     
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    Fender doesn't own Gretsch

    from Wikipedia

    Gretsch entered a business agreement with Fender Musical Instruments Corporation (FMIC). Under the terms of that agreement Fred W. Gretsch would retain ownership while FMIC would handle most of the development, distribution and sales
     
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    In late 2002, Gretsch and the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation reached an agreement giving Fender most of the control over marketing, production, and distribution of guitars, with the Gretsch family retaining ownership of the company.[25]

    Fender instituted a program intended to restore production practices of the era of Gretsch's greatest popularity. Body and headstock shapes were made more "vintage correct." Hollowbodies resumed construction from three-ply wood laminate rather than the five-ply of the 1990–2002 period. Duo Jets were chambered in accordance with vintage practice. The trestle bracing of the 1959–1961 era was re-introduced on the Setzer line and other selected models.

    Gretsch also introduced models with features intended to attract modern players, including TV Jones pickups, locking Sperzel tuners, and "ML" bracing designed by Mike Lewis of FMIC and Masao Terada of the Terada company in Japan, where all Gretsch Pro Series guitars are built.

    FMIC discontinued the low-end bolt-neck Electromatic models of the late 1990s and early 2000s. The renewed Electromatic Hollowbody line became successful, from the 5125–5129 series (with U.S.-made DeArmond 2000 pickups) and the similar 5120 series. The 5120, a single-cutaway model inspired by the 6120, became the best-selling guitar in Gretsch history. The double-cutaway 5122 model, introduced in 2008 and inspired by the 6122 Country Gentleman, filled out the Korean-built Electromatic Hollow line.

    The Electromatic line also included Pro Jet and Double Jet chambered solidbodies based on Gretsch's Duo Jet line, equipped with Gretsch mini-humbuckers unavailable on any other model. The Electromatic line included the Corvette series, thin mahogany solidbodies based on the Corvette model of the early 1960s, but with the newly designed Mega'Tron double-coil pickups exclusive to the Corvette line.

    For a time, Fender also issued the first Gretsch-badged amplifier since the days of Valco. The Gretsch G5222 Electromatic amp was a five-watt tube combo with six-inch speaker, essentially a redressed Fender Champion 600 reissue with differing upholstery and grill material. Though the Champion 600 was discontinued in 2010, the G5222 remained available for a few more years.
     
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