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Fender Pro Jr., Blues Jr., Blues Deluxe, Blues Deville, Hot Rod Mexico and USA what a mess !!!

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by Snake Eyes, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. EC Strat-boy

    EC Strat-boy Strat-Talker Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 16, 2018
    Louisville Kentucky
    And to be fair ANY amp at that price point will be made with inexpensive parts no matter the company and will have issues

    People seem to expect more from the blues jr than what you’re going to get for around 550$.
     
  2. little_wing142

    little_wing142 Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 24, 2010
    Piscataway, NJ
    That 1999 Blues Junior is my "voice." I love that sound and I probably have spent $1500 since I bought it to repair it multiple times. I wish it would stay working!!!
     
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  3. 808K

    808K Strat-O-Master

    500
    Apr 24, 2018
    Philly, USA
    Just to be clear, I was not implying that you were a hater. Keeping that amp working at that cost screams just the opposite! I hope I still have and use mine in 20 years! It’s pretty cool that you found the amp that makes you happy.

    There are haters out there, they pop up in every Blues Jr thread.
     
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  4. Stratoskater

    Stratoskater Most Honored Senior Member

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    Feb 8, 2011
    Running with Scissors
    I'd get a 5e3, either the 57 Custom Deluxe or a clone or kit. A Tweed Deluxe would sound heavnly with that sweet CS Strat you just got @Snake Eyes

    Here is a Mojo tone at Guitar Center for $699. Far better amp than the Hot Rod series IMO.
     
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  5. guitarmikey

    guitarmikey Strat-Talker

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    Jan 10, 2013
    Bucharest - RO
    I have the Pro Jr IV. All I can say is GET IT! (not mine, of course...)
     
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  6. EC Strat-boy

    EC Strat-boy Strat-Talker Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Louisville Kentucky
    Really love mine too. I have the tweed and have modded the hell out of it.

    C Rex speaker
    Billm tone stack, twin jumper, standby, presence, volume attenuators all added
    Output transformer
    2 NOS 12AX7 tubes RCA

    Sounds amazing now
     
  7. Grux

    Grux Strat-Talker

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    May 17, 2018
    Clarksville, TN
    I'd put my pro jr III to work anyday against any 15w amp. I have a deluxe style cab, and a C-Rex but the amp is bone stock except for some old RCA pre amp tubes. At the end of the day its what flavor of Ice cream you like best.
     
  8. pwhite

    pwhite Strat-Talker

    478
    May 24, 2015
    South Carolina
    I just sold my Blues Jr tweed Saturday, I hated it, so I put it on CL for 300. I met the guy at a mom and pop shop about an hour away he was there first and asked if he could bring it in to try it. The owner was cool with it so he pulled out an Afinity Telecaster and plugged it in. He played for a about 5 minutes and it sounded just incredible. Maybe it wasn't the amp maybe it's just me because it sounded good, I mean really good.
     
  9. Seamus OReally

    Seamus OReally Strat-Talk Member Silver Member

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    I had a first gen Blues Jr., and it was nothing but a mistake. But I just played the latest iteration last week, and even a stalwart hater like me must admit that they are radically improved. Also surprising to me were the “blackface” ‘65 DRRI and the current Hot Rod amps... those got way better.

    I really pretty much like everything Fender’s doing lately.
     
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  10. The-Kid

    The-Kid Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Feb 15, 2014
    SO CAL USA
    Its not that it uses cheap parts because the HRD uses the same quality parts and sounds great. So Im saying they really arent cheap parts or constructed poorly. Its just a bad tone in general.

    Its just its inherent circuit is just bland and to me uninspiring. Vs the competetion....BlackStar, Marshall, Vox, Jet City, Egnater, Orange in the same price range almost any other option is better sounding than a Blues Junior IME.
     
  11. No457 Snowy

    No457 Snowy Strat-Talk Member

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    Sep 16, 2012
    Australia
    Whenever someone says the Blues Junior has a bad tone I have to wonder which one they are talking about, I mean the original mid 90's USA version sounds absolutely nothing like the latest version IV. Then there are two other models in between each model sounding quite different and then there is the myriad of speaker offerings Fender have issued the amp with, from the CRex to the V30 and everything in between, all of which again radically change the tone of the amp.
     
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  12. southsidesmoka

    southsidesmoka Strat-Talk Member

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    Feb 3, 2018
    Columbia, SC USA
    I've found the quality of "MIM" Fender products to be quite pleasing. My "MIM" Fender Hot Rod Deluxe IV is, simply, the most versatile amp I've ever owned. The Clean channel is pristine in it's clarity and tone. The Drive channel is perfect for blues and lite rock. The More Drive channel takes you into the land of crunch.

    When thinking back many-a-year, I remember my buddy's "MIA" red Tolex-covered Fender Pro-Sonic head and matching 4x12 cabinet...comparing the Hot Rod Deluxe IV to it, we have two totally different amps from two totally different eras; however, the renowned Fender quality, craftsmanship and sound would be comparable, today, between the two.

    I'm thinking the "MIA" Pro-Sonic had a certain level of noise and hiss that my "MIM" Deluxe doesn't - this could be due to the Gain control on his Pro-Sonic being cranked to 10 at all times, differences in pre-amp design and / or from faulty electrical wiring in his house. I digress... :eek:

    The "MIM" Fender products are not inferior to those "MIA". They are more friendly on one's wallet because of lower manufacturing costs; poignantly, I have never noticed a lack of quality in any "MIM" Fender products. :D

    If you can afford American-made Fender, there's really no question to ask other than "how much and how soon"...

    How about this: "MIM" Fenders are to Chevrolets what "MIA" Fenders are to Cadillacs. Same company, same designs, same materials, different locales of manufacture and different amenities. :thumb:

    - southsidesmoka