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Gilmour's Strat 0001

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by Fretmeltkid, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. Fretmeltkid

    Fretmeltkid Strat-Talker

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    Not really noticed before but looking at close up pics of that guitar and it clearly is not as early as claimed
    Personally i would put as circa 57 and more of a bitza than original
    Pickups don't look period either
     
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    Seymour Duncan tells a story of a blonde parts caster he put together with a 0001 neck plate. I have a feeling that it's the same guitar and so does Seymour
     
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    I'm sure that Mr. Gilmour would be heartbroken to hear you say that.
     
  4. T Guitar Floyd

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    The guitar was taken apart several years ago for an English guitar magazine article. Other posters have mentioned it although I haven't seen it. It checked out to be a 1954, somewhere between March and June. There is also a lengthy post on this forum, "Dave's White Strat" that addresses this issue, including Mr. Seymour's recollection. It is a lengthy post, several pages long and worth reading. :)

    It is not "Blonde".
     
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    Exactly, it's desert sand.
     
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    so is it numero uno, or is it not?

    or is it made up of the only surviving pieces known of numero uno ... and the rest cannot be found or verified?

    If it is not the oldest complete strat known... does anybody know who has the oldest complete strat, verified?
     
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    Yep, I hear he reads the forum religiously :D
     
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    hes in the cornfield
     
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    Because that's where he gets all the good news... Nobody's secrets are safe there with all those ears.:rolleyes:
     
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    The older Strats had serial numbers stamped on the plastic spring cover plate. George Gruhn had #0100 last year, but don't know if he sold it or not. Gilmour's #0001 is (arguably) the oldest one with serial on the neck plate. But records are scarce and memories are sketchy from that time period . . . :whistling:
     
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    That's all well and good but looking at the detailed pics the body shape is all wrong for a 54
     
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    Perhaps you should send him an e.mail to let him know? I'm sure he must have a website.
     
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    Can you upload these detailed pics? There was a lot of handwork on those old bodies and necks.
     
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    People that have actually examined the guitar are happy that's it's a 54, I have no inclination to disbelieve them.
     
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    I just remembered, there is a post here in the pre-CBS section called "Pre-production Stratocasters" (or a similar title), that has the story about the 1953 Strat that one of our late posters owned. It's not the complete Strat anymore, but there are photos of it in the book "Fender-the sound heard round the world".
     
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    Seymour Duncan's recollection of the guitar is quite different though
    I just think the body looks later that all
    to me it has a rounded lower neck pocket shape more in keeping with 55 on
     
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    The Strat clearly was around in several forms during 53 as Leo was struggling with the original trem design and it held back production for a good while
     
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    Not disagreeing, but can you link us to the pictures you're talking about? I have not seen pics of the 0001 neck pocket, though I do know that the 54s had the treble side squared off.
     
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    Ok, read that and . . . the pictures do make it look odd. The headstock has the squared edges rather than rounded like other 54s. The area around the tuning keys has wood pulled away from a less than professional bushing removal. Why would Mr. Duncan sell a guitar with TG 54 penciled at the neck end and claim it to be a 57? Did he pencil that in? o_O
     
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