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Discussion in 'The Effect effect' started by Wxman2000, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Wxman2000

    Wxman2000 Strat-Talk Member

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    So I just got a green Russian a few days ago and I'm having a bit of trouble with it. My other pedals all have their volume set near the mid point to sound the same whether the pedal is on or off, but with the muff, I have to set the level down around 8:00 and sustain around noon in order for it to sound similar in volume to everything else. The issue though is that it seems like I'm not getting the most out of this pedal with its level knob close to min. If I try to turn the sustain anywhere past noon, I have to take the level knob even lower.

    Since this is my first pedal like this, is this normal or am I not utilizing it correctly? I've tried placing my compressor before or after, and I have the same issue. It's a bit frustrating and no matter what I'm trying, it just seems too darn loud when switched on to where there's a huge jump in volume.

    Any thoughts.
     
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    The-Kid Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Its just the nature of the Fuzz...

    Muff, Fuzz Face or otherwise...

    Usually IMO when you use a Fuzz....Its like for a whole set or the whole song or whatever....

    Just dial in the knob to clean things up, bring gain down etc etc.

    Just the way these things work man. Dont worry about it "changing your tone" "altering transperency" blah blah blah blah.....

    Just play it and have fun, Set it and forget it.

    Also to tame the pedal use the preamp on your amp at a lower setting gainwise. This will help with the volume issue/unity gain. Its not impossible to set a Fuzz to unity gain to your other pedals. Just give it time but for the most part as said....its the nature of the beast
     
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    Must...not...make...green...Russian...muff...joke...must...resist...
     
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    Please...make.....joke....need.... Laff.....plzzzzz:(
     
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    I've discovered that the fuzz is a fickle animal. Don't be shy in turning those knobs. Setting the volume very low and cranking the gain to max does one thing and vice versa.
     
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    I was about to google 'Green Russian Muff' to find something funny, but then I realised I'm at work and that could be taken the wrong way.
     
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    pickle.png + muff.png = cb.png
     
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    Stormy Monday Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    not sure what the problem is. I set my pedals to use with the guys I jam with. They are all set pretty much all over he place. The TS9 is the only set about where you describe.
     
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    Was so expecting something different from this thread title... ever so slightly disappointed :whistling:
     
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    EC Strat-boy Strat-O-Master Strat-Talk Supporter

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    One thing that I had to do with mine (I have a Pi Nano) was move it around in the pedal chain to find where it works best.

    I read where EHx pedals don’t particularly stack well or play well with other pedals and I found that to be true

    What really helped was putting a pedal in front of it in the chain that is buffered. Pedals that had true bypass immediate ahead of it really threw it off. The buffer helps equalize the resistance (I think) t the big muff and the other pedals.

    Hope this helps
     
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    I put my mxr sugar on front of it and turned on the buffer. That did the trick
     
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    Similar behaviour for me, but not an issue. If I set the level really low, the sound is quite anemic. There is a certain point when the pedal "wakes up", but this is at a manageable 09:00 in my case. Once you get over that point, it sounds killer.
     
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    Thanks for the info everyone. Since this was my first fuzz pedal, I guess I wasn't really sure what I was in for...sounds like this is par for the course though. I'll keep fiddling with it and try moving it around the chain too and see what happens.

    With the above issues I was talking about, I had it further into my chain a bit...tuner>wah>compressor>muff. I might try moving it up before the tuner even to see what will happen.

    Either way, I like the sounds I'm getting out of it, and I'm sure once I figure out the right placement and settings, I'll be good to go.
     
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    I used to run bufferless tubescreamer in front of one when I owned/used one. I can't say I had any issues with volume or pedal behavior. They are loud pedals by nature, just run the level lower, I wouldn't think you'll miss much if anything. I don't and never have felt that a muff is so much a fuzz, but rather more of a distortion pedal. Just my opinion.
     
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    It's all the same inside
     
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    I have the American big muff and I find no matter where I set the knobs.. when I plug it in and turn it on I am happy:D
     
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    This.
     
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    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Decreasing volume on guitar's volume knob will partially clean up fuzz.

    Pedal order or where to set the fuzz is one question you should resolve. Of course, you can plug your guitar into it, and run a cable from the fuzz direct to a tube amp. ;)
    Fuzz before or after OD?
    Fuzz immediately before another distotion pedal?
     
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    TS9 and TS anything for the win.


    Have an older Maxon/Ibanez TS9 and a Maxon OD808. Work likr a charm. Sugar Drive does the same with a different flavor.
     
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