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Help me understand that custom shop truss rod

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  1. Ferpie

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    Allen key? Shouldn't be. Is there actually a nut on the rod? A shot straight down the hole would help.
     
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    This picture is aweful but that’s all i have now... are you questioning if the part that would be Philips is missing?
     

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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    That's no more a Fender Custom Shop neck than I am. I don't know what it actually is.
     
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    I know right!? I mean it’s a great neck, does smell like nitro, look like some high quality rosewood board frets are great so i really wouldn’t care if it came from the dollar store, i just wanna understand what is the deal with that truss rod
     
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    Get a set of Metric hex keys and find the one that matches.

    We can't tell you what size key it is, because we don't know what brand of neck that is.

    After 30 years, it probably should not smell too strongly of nitro.
     
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    Oh no im not actually wondering the key size tho, just if there’s a possible way by any means that fender would have done it that way in 91... and yeah the smell is subtle but i had the same thought you had...
     
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    No, they never did.

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    This whole thing is so odd, just the fact the truss rod is on the heel side take a lot of cheap knockoffs out of the equation to counterfeit a neck... you could think about a home built but it’s such high quality... i don’t understand why someone would pass it as a 1991 fender Custom Shop instead of a newer one also... that’s really what’s bugging me...
     
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    Wallmart was selling Pyle strats last year with Fender shape headstocks and hex heel truss rods for $98, including an amp.

    My local CL is flooded with them, all re-decaled, claiming to be custom shop, MIA or Crapton strats.

    It's like someone set up an entire industry of nonsense.
     
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    Oh well, thanks y’all for the help I’ll keep looking into it but yeah like all of you this thing don’t make sense to me
     
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    Show some pics of the entire neck, especially the front of the headstock and 12th fret and we can help you more.
     
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    image.jpg The radius is supposed to be 7.25
    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg The nut has been changed and done quite poorly if you ask me... notice the decall being splitted but i did see that on an authentic 1958 so im not quite sure what to think of that one... image.jpg image.jpg there is signs of lacquer dripping or whatever is there... image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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    I was told that was brazilian rosewood
     
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    It looks like a $29 E-Bay Chinese neck. There is so much wrong with it. The dot spacing is wrong. The fretwork looks like it was done by monkeys. I hope you can return it and get your money back, or you got it very cheap. It's a complete fake. You've been conned.
     
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    Yeah it definitely could be, no worries here i haven’t lost much in this as this was made in a trade and I already got mostly all my money back from selling the rest of that guitar which was less odd but it’s just so wrong! I was trying to find a neck for my partscaster and i still believe i got it but man people are aweful...
     
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    johnnymg Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Ahhhhhh, I sort of resent the broad brush characterization of your post. I’m a highly skilled luthier! :p

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    Someone COULD have removed the original truss rod nut and replaced it with the socket style. The bore looks right for the original (and it's not a Philips, nor really a cross-point, it's just two slots that can accept a flat blade screwdriver, or you can get/make a tool that fits into half of a slot to make adjustments on-body.
    But there's too much else wrong with that neck. Biggest giveaway is the dots, that's typical Asian construction, and after the last fret doesn't look right... it looks like there's too much wood there. I'd bet that it can't be intonated properly all the way to the 21st.
    Tuners were sloppily installed.

    Aside from the fact that you can't buy a real Custom Shop neck any more than you can buy a CS body without a neck and hardware. Today, you can buy most production necks to replace originals, but you couldn't in 1991.
     
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    i can see how bad the finish work on the headstock is even looking at a small screen with old eyes.
    it was done in someone's custom shop but not fender's.
     
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