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Hi, am new here...Josie's sign on the black bobbins

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by picapoyo, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. picapoyo

    picapoyo Strat-Talk Member

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    South Africa
    Hello, guys.

    I am new here because actually I am gibson man, with Les Paul jr, ES345 and acoustic J50
    but always love strats...Some day will get good strat!

    Now I am negotiating with a guy who has a 62 OW strat.
    He sent me a couple of pics.
    It looks real one.

    I will see the seller this afternoon
    maybe I can play that one as a test.

    I hope I can get that my dreaming strat.
    I saw J initial on front and middle pickups, they are black bobbins
    I am not sure it is a sign of Josie???
     

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  2. Bluebird_12

    Bluebird_12 Strat-Talker

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    Feb 21, 2014
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    I can't answer the question but I have to say, for a Gibson man, that be one heck of a fender!
     

  3. Scimmy

    Scimmy Strat-Talker

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    I wonder why he's put the volume knob on the middle pup tone pot?
     

  4. ocean

    ocean Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 14, 2015
    In a house
    Volume knob gets in the way in first position for some..
     

  5. Uncle Jimmy

    Uncle Jimmy Senior Stratmaster

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    Aug 22, 2011
    Connecticut
    You obviously do not need the ES 345. Please send it to me.

    (good looking strat, by the way!)
     
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  6. tery

    tery Most Honored Senior Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    Tennessee
    Welcome to Strat-Talk :)
     

  7. Scimmy

    Scimmy Strat-Talker

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    The wiring photo suggests that that pot is still the volume pot.....and in any case the knob is still in the way......
     

  8. Shay

    Shay Strat-Talker

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    Wow, that's a hell of a find, I'd love just to play it or for that matter, just to hear it!
     

  9. Wayne D.

    Wayne D. Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 28, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    George Harrison's 'Rocky' strat is setup the same way. btw it's a '62 also. nice find Picapoyo and welcome to the Forum.:)
     

  10. Scimmy

    Scimmy Strat-Talker

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    Am I failing to see something here? :confused:

    It appears to me that the guitar is normally wired, but for some reason the volume pot knob has been swapped with a tone pot knob.

    Somebody please assure me that I am not losing my faculties! :)
     
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  11. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    Welcome to Strat-Talk picapyo. Looks like you could have found a gem there. :thumb:

    When it comes to why the knobs are on the wrong controls, I have to admit I'm not sensing a great amount of 'pride of ownership' from whoever owns the guitar right now.
     
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  12. Bazz Jass

    Bazz Jass Chairman of the Fingerboard Strat-Talk Supporter

    Nov 19, 2014
    Up a lazy river
    Possibly previously owned by a blind guitarist? :cool:
     

  13. Wayne D.

    Wayne D. Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 28, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    Or in George's case too much Pattie. :thumbd:
     
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  14. Jonny Hotnuts

    Jonny Hotnuts Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 7, 2013
    Portland
    Wow that is a really nice guitar. It is odd that the volume knob is swapped with a tone but big deal, everything else looks right.

    ~JH
     

  15. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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  16. Scimmy

    Scimmy Strat-Talker

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    Judging by the overall scruffy state of the instrument, I reckon you may be right. The poor thing's covered in crud (or is the correct word for the cognoscenti "patina"? :D).
     
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  17. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 30, 2013
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    It depends whether you're buying or selling. :cool: I'm normally very wary of instruments that seemed to have unfeasible amounts of grime, because that's often a cheap route to implying age. In this care, everything else looks right to me.
     

  18. Scimmy

    Scimmy Strat-Talker

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    Oh yes, it all looks legit to my untrained eye, but I can't understand how somebody who has their faculties about them can allow an instrument such as that to get into that filthy condition. It looks like it has been played for fifty years in the kitchen of a fast-food restaurant.
     

  19. T Guitar Floyd

    T Guitar Floyd Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 27, 2014
    Arizona
    Yes, welcome to the forum! How much is the asking price (I know, crass question, right)? I have been accused of being nosey before. :whistling: Have you gotten it yet? It's a beaut! :cool: :)
     

  20. Wayne D.

    Wayne D. Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 28, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    Back your original question picapoyo, if your middle pickup is signed by Josie.
    I found this picture in my files of a '64 pup signed by Josie G. The J on your pup looks similar. IMO Not much is known about Josie other that she started at Fender in the early days around 1951 until the CBS buyout in '65.

    [​IMG]
     
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