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Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by Silvercrow, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. Silvercrow

    Silvercrow Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 6, 2014
    Bucks County, Pa.
    If you read my "NAD" post you'll know what this is about.

    My new amp sounds amazing...but smells like stale tobacco smoke.

    Not terrible- I've smelled worse. Still, would love to be rid of the smell as much as possible.

    Keep in mind please- it is an amp and a tube amp at that. I'll have to take care squirting, spraying or applying anything I use.

    So far, Febreeze helped, a little.

    The grill and tolex and cover are permeated. I MIGHT be able to remove the speaker grill, I believe.

    Anything suggestions, thoughts etc. VERY welcomed!

    Thanks in advance!

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  2. rolandson

    rolandson Most Honored Senior Member

    Didn't see your NAD...yet.

    It's called a 'Bar Tan'. It will go away in time.

    Don't remove the grill unless you are already expert at putting those on. Don't be spraying shiz on it to mask it, you'll only make it worse.

    Wipe the covering with a damp cloth, taking care to thoroughly dry any metal parts that get damp. If you are good at removing the chassis, do that and wipe around the cabinet inside. BUT NOT INSIDE THE CHASSIS. Same with the speaker...remove if you are good with that sort of thing and the wipe off the sound board...don't wipe the speaker.

    And wait. In time the stink will go away. But it takes time.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019 at 12:11 AM
  3. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 27, 2018
    North Central NC
    I'd add that mild soap and water on the tolex will help, just don't use enough water that it gets inside something.

    Imagine what that stuff does to lungs!
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  4. Silvercrow

    Silvercrow Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 6, 2014
    Bucks County, Pa.
    LOL.I smoked for over 30 years. I did gig while I smoked...but both amps I used when smoking were sold shortly before I stopped smoking. Now the smell is just annoying.

    I'll be VERY careful. I can remove the chassis with confidence; I used to bias my own amps and am still alive to tell about it!:D

    It LOOKS as if the Mesa's grill is screwed on and mounted to an independent frame. Not sure though. IF it's stapled or stapled / glued I'm not gonna mess with it. I mount speakers (even have an inch/pound torque driver -bought originally to mount rifle scopes). So I WILL remove the speaker and chassis. Being the impatient type (in some things) I wondered if there were any new products available to speed the process / do the job quickly.

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  5. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy BushBaby Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    This should work.

    Mix white vinegar with water in a spray bottle...about 25% vinegar. Spray lightly and let dry for a few hours. You might need to do this several times. This is a mist rather than a full wetting.

    Loosely cover the amp with a plastic sheet, put a bowl or two of baking soda under the sheet, put one inside the amp if it's open back.

    I'm sorry there was some other stuff we sprayed on furniture in extreme cases, but the first two should work.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019 at 1:17 AM
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  6. nederemer

    nederemer Strat-O-Master

    Oct 25, 2017
    Somerset, Kentucky, USA.
    Let it sit a while. The smell will go away on its own.
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  7. 3bolt79

    3bolt79 Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 16, 2018
    Tacoma in two weeks
    There is this stuff that firemen use to tame down the smoke smell when they are in a building after its had smoke exposure. I don't remember what it's called. But it's a spray. It eliminates pot and cigarette smell. Don't get it on the speaker or in the electronics. They sell it at safety supply stores. You could empty the cabinet. Spray inside the cab,hand let it sit for a day, then wipe everything down inside with a damp cloth. It worked for me on a solid state Marshall, but you may have to replace the speaker, as it's hard to getnsmoke out of of paper.
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  8. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Haven't smoked in year(s)
    Strangely, reading this thread
    I'm thinking Lee oughta come over with a Camel..
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  9. Bob the builder

    Bob the builder Senior Stratmaster

    May 2, 2016
    Cranston, Rhode Island
    The janitorial supply house sell little 3 × 3 cakes you could put in back of it
    They come in a few fragrances
    About $1.25
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  10. henderman

    henderman Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 4, 2013
    the exposed screws can be removed to get the grill out. i would wipe the amp and speaker chassis down with alcohol and spray a rag with some super cleaner and scrub the tolex. then as much fresh air as you can give it.

    i understand it was probably not 80 like it was here today but get it some if you can !
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  11. heltershelton

    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    i used to do this kinda thing for a livin.
    wanna get rid of the smoke smell?
    get a little ozone machine.
    it will destroy all odor at the source.
    let in run in a closed room with your amp for a few days.
    i aint kiddin.
  12. 3bolt79

    3bolt79 Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 16, 2018
    Tacoma in two weeks
    The spray I mentioned we ozone it a can, I just couldn't remember that until Kelly memotioned it
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  13. eclecticsynergy

    eclecticsynergy Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 23, 2014
    Ozium perhaps? Pretty good at killing odors.

    All good ideas above, as long as you're careful. At least you know what you're doing vis a vis tube amps, so you understand what not to do.

    Unless the smell is truly overwhelming the easiest, best fix is fresh air & sunshine. It's a little early in the year for open windows in Bucks County, but is there a sunny windowsill at your place where you can leave it for awhile?
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  14. SachaPlusDeluxe

    SachaPlusDeluxe Strat-O-Master

    I had this issue on my Jeep when I first bought it, a heavy smoker had owned it before me. I tried everything to get the smell out, the thing that worked??? Time, 2.5 years on and the smell has gone....

    Although the Ozone machine referenced above sounds promising ;)
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  15. bluejazzoid

    bluejazzoid Strats Amore Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 14, 2009
    Southeast USA
    Maybe burn some great-smelling incense in the room every now and then... or do the ozone machine thing... or what others have suggested (including time!).
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  16. AndyFroncioni

    AndyFroncioni Strat-Talker

    Aug 14, 2017
  17. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 13, 2011
    Music City TN
  18. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 19, 2011
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  19. Alan Crossley

    Alan Crossley Strat-O-Master

    Nov 20, 2018
    Republic of Ireland

    The Camel will crap all over the place.
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  20. Alan Crossley

    Alan Crossley Strat-O-Master

    Nov 20, 2018
    Republic of Ireland

    Absolutely correct. Many Nursing Homes use ozone machines to kill smells in unoccupied rooms (before admission of new residents and in the likely event of “accidents”). If my memory serves me at all, ozone is an inorganic chemical with the formula of O3. The ozone generators are sometimes seen in well ventilated public toilets to kill the smells naturally produced by use.

    The room must be unoccupied during use and thoroughly ventilated before habitation. In large doses, Ozone can be fatal, low doses can cause chest pains and might prove harmful to the lungs.
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