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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by BallisticSquid, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. brians

    brians Strat-O-Master

    Nov 28, 2016
    This thread made me go hammer my HSS, it's awesome go get one asap
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  2. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va
    What pickups does your Lester have ? I did try a Shawbucker Strat and was pretty underwhelmed
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  3. jvin248

    jvin248 Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 10, 2014
    That's what I did with my first one too. Don't despair. See the Strat below... A little Hendrix action. I cut a filler plate from another piece of black plastic. Eventually I'll get a reverse angled SSS pickguard but this works for now. This guitar started as a regular penguin tuxedo and I bought an ebay loaded pickguard with HSS to get black and later modded that again.

    Maybe these will help some of you:

    -LP HB neck can get a lot closer to classic Strat neck if the whole pickup is lowered to the body or as low before the elevator screws fall out. Then raise the pole pieces up as high as they go or to your normal pickup height. Put the standard Strat stagger in the screw heights. Now it will sound much more Stratty - and still gives humbucking protection. Easy to try and reverse back to stock. You may find some pickup manufacturers never thought you'd actually use those screw poles and they actually don't all screw out.

    -Do the above and put each HB coil on a push/pull or toggle switch (on/on/on) and when in parallel you can get the Strat quack better than you've ever heard a HB try to quack.

    -An SSS Strat with the Dan Armstrong Blender Mod that swings into HSH with wiring mod blows away the tone of an HSS Strat (I just did that last night with a new flipper HSS) plus you get even more tones and have the classic SSS setup to fall back into. This Strat has the DABM on it.

    -There are different pots and caps (500k vs 250k and 0.047uF vs 0.022uF) that can cause some of the tonal differences when one guitar tries to sound like the other and sometimes pickup placement, relative distance from the bridge from guitar to guitar, can change the tone.


  4. BallisticSquid

    BallisticSquid Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 12, 2016
    The LP I've been playing lately has BB Pros in it. My other one has PAF 57's.

    It's interesting to me how the sound of a room affects things. At my gig this weekend, I was much more happy with my tone.
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  5. Chief101

    Chief101 Strat-O-Master

    Jan 14, 2012
    Bought a Shawbucker loaded Am. Standard last year with the intention of converting it to a SSS. Decided to give it a chance before any conversion work. Now I've decided to leave the Shawbucker in. Sounds great to me, underwound so output is only modestly higher, very useful bridge pickup, very complimentary to the Fat 50's. I've played through half-dozen different amps and the Shawbucker sounded good in all of them. I still play my other Strats but now my HSS is my go-to Strat. Just one man's experience.

  6. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va

    My LP Trad has 57 Classics. really like those. My SG has 490-498. They're great rock pickups but even though they can do other stuff for me they're the in your face sound.I've been curious about the BB. Havent played any of those
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  7. The Strat Dude

    The Strat Dude Duderino Strat-Talk Supporter

    Don't tell Les Paul that a Les Paul does not sound good clean in the bridge position.
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  8. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    25.5 scale with bridge humbucker sounds different from a 24.75 scale with a bridge humbucker. :D
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  9. jeff h

    jeff h Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 13, 2017
    And fixed bridges sound different than floating ones, Mahogany sounds different than....never mind. You get the point.

    <--- originally, when I put the EMG pick guard in, I assumed I would have massive humbucker tones, and while I did, they are still a different than mahogany bodied fixed bridge guitars, not bad in any way, just different and not exactly what I expected. Still way better than a single coil in the bridge and the neck pickup still sounds very strat like, active or not.

  10. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

    Apr 2, 2016
    I’ve got BurstBucker 1 & 2 in one of my -335’s and they’re really great pickups.
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  11. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va

    I think the BB comes in the 339 also. Which is on my radar but not right now
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  12. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Yep. But not as much as scale length. IME, IMO :D
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  13. Bladesg

    Bladesg Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 31, 2013
    IMO the maple top on most LPs makes a difference as well as the shorter scale length

  14. Elvis v

    Elvis v Strat-Talker

    Apr 11, 2017
    My place.
    I like mine the best of both worlds. Yamaha brand though. 79145_l.jpg

  15. tubejockey

    tubejockey Strat-Talker

    Dec 1, 2016
    the Bozone
    I just prefer to let strats be strats and LPs be LPs. As long as I don't screw up the bread and butter stock tones I am more than happy to add to the tonal palette. I don't always have the luxury of switching guitars.
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  16. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

    Apr 2, 2016
    I agree here. Scale length contributes to the Fender “sparkle” for sure
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  17. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

    Apr 2, 2016
    Those are really cool guitars! I thought they came with ‘57 Classics, but could easily be wrong- it’s happenes a couple times.

    Either way, the ‘57 Classics or the B.B. pickups are awesome A2 humbuckers and you can’t go wrong with either.

  18. BallisticSquid

    BallisticSquid Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 12, 2016
    As far has heaviness goes, it's '57 < 490/498 < BB Pro. I believe the same holds true for BB 1's and BB 2's as well.

    I had a guitar with 490/498's in them and it was a very good compromise...I thought they were great pickups. It was a Faded LP...I got rid of it because it was redundant with my LP Trad Pro ii.

  19. qblue

    qblue Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 18, 2009
    Clarks Summit, PA
    There is no way to make BB1, BB2, or BB3 to sound good. They are one trick ponies. I have P90's on my favorite LP and in a good place for tone.

    My HSS Strat is much cleaner and pristine than a BB, but P90's dirty up so nicely I tend to use that for certain songs. I love the balanced coil sound of the Classic 57 on my ES-347. The Classic '57 is a do all humbucker, and the guitar has a coil tap, that makes me forget about Fenders.

  20. mapletop

    mapletop Strat-Talk Member

    Mar 5, 2015
    i was wondering in the h/s/s what size pot s 250k or the 500 k what size cap do you use?and when you put it in bridge & middle does the humbucker split or you just have h/s sound.any help thanks