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Is my strat a pre CBS or a CBS era ?

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by Guillaume212, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. Guillaume212

    Guillaume212 Strat-Talk Member

    Jan 1, 2018
    Paris France
    Yes'for me it's à big chance in the process of buying such an instrument and being able to compare it with other models for +/- the same era in the very same condition...amp/pedal.

    And how glad I am that the one which sounds best to my ears fitted my budget !

    I really prefered it over older pre cbs guitars that I couldn't afford anyway !

    Lucky me !

  2. Guillaume212

    Guillaume212 Strat-Talk Member

    Jan 1, 2018
    Paris France
    Hi everybody

    I did a little mathematics game yesterday !

    It's commonly recognized that 1965 serial numbers goes from L59000 to 110000 so approximately 50.000 guitars produced that years.

    According to the fact that there is 5 working days in a week : 52x5=260 (which I substrat 10 days, for holidays, national days etc. :260-10=250 working days approx.

    That would mean that 50000/250=200 guitars were produced in a day in 1965.

    My strat having the serial number 1001xx, that would also mean that technically it has been produced the very next day after the end of the L series ! :rolleyes::D

    I know that in reality it mustn't happen exactly that way, but I thought it was funny to share this idea !

  3. Mipstoo

    Mipstoo Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 18, 2013
    Rockingham Palace
    I like you're reasoning :D BUT the serial number plates were not used in a sequential order... rather pulled from a bin at random...
    BUT this also could mean that some L-numbers were finished after yours was made... :whistling:
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  4. Bazz Jass

    Bazz Jass Chairman of the Fingerboard Strat-Talk Supporter

    Nov 19, 2014
    Up a lazy river
    It certainly isn't cut and dry - yes, CBS took over when they did BUT production didn't drastically change that first year. It would be ridiculous to lump a 65 with a bunch of mid-70s strats and say "these are all of an era" i.e. CBS. Nope.
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  5. johnnymg

    johnnymg Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 5, 2015
    Central Coast Ca
    If the guitar is truly "original" then I definitely wouldn't "restore it" beyond a very light cleaning. JMO.

    Congrats again............. and post more pics when you can.

  6. Guillaume212

    Guillaume212 Strat-Talk Member

    Jan 1, 2018
    Paris France
    here are some pictures ! I am not a good photographer...

    The last picture has been taken with her young sister from 1977, despite the bad reputation of those years, this OW strat is excellent ! Light and resonant, I like the pickup sound, a very cool CBS era Strat !

    Attached Files:

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  7. silversonic65

    silversonic65 New Member!

    Apr 6, 2014
    Great guitar! Interesting that the hole from the cable to the backside is from above of the worm route. Mostly they are on the side. Has anyone seen this before?
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2018

  8. Percy

    Percy Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter


    Great color on the '77.....Robin Trower plays one just like it....:thumb: