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Is the Special ultimate working mans Strat?

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  1. diverse379

    diverse379 Strat-Talker

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    i bought one of these with the intention to mod with some pickups and wiring. although I paid full
    Retail I ended up
    With a guitar that is better than the other Mia’s I was comparing in the store.

    Upside
    MIA for 1000 or less even new.
    lower cost of other MIA series
    Used prices are competitive.
    Takes any mod and you don’t feel
    Like you are destroying a collector item.
    The jumbo frets
    The fact that the truss rod adjustment is in the head stock.
    The neck feels as good as any I’ve played.

    Down side it’s considered budget


    I honestly love mine it plays really well
    I also have an elite and I go back and forth between them with the mods it hangs like a champ
     
  2. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

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    Specials are a great value of a guitar.
     
  3. CB91710

    CB91710 This is a Custom Title Gold Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    They are a great value, but once you throw in $150 for the ABS case, you're getting closer to the AmPro point.
    Do they still include a strap in the "case candy" for the higher end models?
    But yes... I really, really, really like the neck on my 2017 AmSpec.

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. garyhoos1

    garyhoos1 Huffing n Puffing. Strat-Talk Supporter

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    One of my favourite necks is off a highway 2004 is this model a follow on from that.?
     
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  5. diverse379

    diverse379 Strat-Talker

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    Good point about the case
     
  7. CB91710

    CB91710 This is a Custom Title Gold Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Ya, American Special is basically a 2nd-Gen (2005-2010) Highway-One.
    They went to the CS Texas Special pickups on the AmSpec.
    The tone is the "Delta" circuit with the #1 tone on neck and #2 tone on bridge, no tone on middle except when combined on 2 & 4), and the "Greasebucket" tone wiring. Both of these actually started on the Highway-One in 2005. I think your 2004 has the same wiring as a traditional Strat.
     
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  8. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster

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    It's a very good guitar and will serve you well. But...

    Budget? Who says that? If it's you that says that, stop saying it and the concept no longer exists.

    It could be the ultimate workinghuman's Strat, if you're restricting yourself to the MIA realm. If one doesn't look at country of origin, IMO the MIM Classic, Classic Player, Jimmie Vaughan Tex Mex, and Robert Cray deliver the goods, with the same quality, at a lower price.

    If I were buying new, I'd buy one of those before I'd throw down another $150-200 just to get equivalent quality that's MIA.
     
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  9. diverse379

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    Yes I think I am definitely speaking to the Mia crowd.

    I have a great playing mim and I have owned a classic vibe tele that rivaled all the MIA in the store.

    There are some that want that MIa guitar I played for years before getting my first one.

    So you are right maybe the wording may not have been one hundred percent accurate

    But for those who want MiA
    And mod and tinker without worrying about destroying an investment

    I think these are the ticket
     
  10. 68deluxe

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    I love the Special I picked up a couple years ago. I liked the Texas Special PUs but dropped a pickguard with CS69s in it and put locking tuners on it. [​IMG]
     
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    I'm a big fan of the American Specials. I've got two, that I liked enough that I sold my American Vintage. Buy a guitar for how it sounds and plays, not by model or what it comes with. Cases are cheap.

    Model only determines Specs. Try before you buy. I've played Specials that were great, and other's that were disappointing.


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    I love mine and want another !
     
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    John C Senior Stratmaster

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    Fender stopped including the strap and cable when the American Professionals replaced the American Standards in December 2016 - so American Standards always had them, but American Professionals never had them. On the American Elites they started out including the strap and cable but stopped including them not long after the American Professionals came out (so by early 2017 no more strap and cable). Similarly no strap and cable with the American Originals while the American Vintage models had replicas of the period-correct ones.

    Not sure about the USA Artist models - they probably still include straps and cables per the artist's specs (so some have generic Fender ones while others have specific things like the Eric Johnson Strat).
     
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    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

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    But don't forget, when the Specials are on sale they are either $629 or $699

    So better hardware, better resale, jumbo frets and MIA, I'd say the Special is the much more desirable instrument.

    http://www.strat-talk.com/threads/fender-american-special-stratocasters-699-free-shipping.478365/
     
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  15. esseff

    esseff Strat-O-Master

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    Biggest downside for me...

    UGLY, UGLY BIG HEADSTOCK.
    .
     
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    It is. Big some people
    Like it.
     
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    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    Dunno if you guys have ever heard of the band Blackstone Cherry. They are kind of a southern rock band. Anyway one of the guitar players in their band has a new sonic blue one for sale near me.

    Too bad he wants too much for it. He told me he would sign it if I bought it.
     
  18. AlexJCRandall

    AlexJCRandall Senior Stratmaster

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    The good thing about any strat is they are modular.

    You just pick the one that has the closest to the features you want.......and that one becomes the 'ultimate working mans strat' for you.
     
  19. CB91710

    CB91710 This is a Custom Title Gold Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Depends on your frame of reference.
    I grew up in the 70s, so to me, that was a Fender Strat. The small headstock was something that came later, and left a "Fender-badged Japanese copy" taste in my mouth. It wasn't until the late 90s that I regained my respect for Fender, and now, the small headstock doesn't bother me... but I have the AmSpec, and a Partscaster project that will use the MiM large headstock with bullet truss rod.
     
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    Oh... and some ppl might feel MIA gives them stage cred but... my new Performer Tele (New version of the Special) was the worst of all 6 MIJs n MIMs recently purchased.
    The only new guitar I've had to return for immediate warranty work.
    Just my experience n not trying to start a MIA vs MIx war, and I know it is the cheapest of the MIAs.
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