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is there a 15 watt, Fender amp with 2x12

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by Stormy Monday, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:28 PM.

  1. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Weeee doggie Strat-Talk Supporter

    I really like the sound of a Fender amp, Tweed Deluxe, Deluxe Reverb and Pro Reverb. I am also pretty restricted to about a 15w amp right now. I also really liked the Pro Reverb i had with the 2 12 in speakers. Is there a Fender Amp, or clone, with this configuration?

    Is there a point where there is not enough output from the amp to really use two speakers?
     

  2. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

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    Based on the amps you've mentioned, I assume you're looking for a tube amp.

    If you want to push a pair of speakers to the point of breakup, 15w wont get you there.
    That said, you'll be able to run the amp hard and get some sweet tube saturation without issue.

    I dont think Ive ever seen a 15w 2x12 combo, so Im thinking you might have to go with a head and cabinet set up.
    Or a 15w 1x12 combo with a 1x12 extension cab.
     
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  3. RJ Squirrel

    RJ Squirrel Strat-Talker

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    As long as you match the speaker load to the expected transformer output impedance, (eg. 4 ohms or 16 ohms) you're good to go. Two speakers of the same type will increase the sensitivity by about 2 decibels which could be beneficial for a lower output amp.
     

  4. archetype

    archetype Strat-O-Master

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    Get a Blues Jr. and rehouse it in one of this guy's cabs...

    https://www.ebay.com/str/themusicanshardwarestore

    One is a 2 x 10" and the other is a 1 10" + 1 12". Any covering and grille cloth you want.

    Overdriving 2 speakers is dependent on the cones, magnet, magnet size, etc. Load the 2 x 10" with Weber Signature 10A smooth cones and they'll get dirty past 5 on the dial.
     

  5. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Get another cab with an 8 ohm 12". Get some 5881s for your 5e3. Plug them in, plug in the other cab. With 5881s the 5e3' s OT will want to see a 4 ohm load. You might get 18 watts out of it on a good day with the wind at your back, going downhill. You'll maybe hear a 3 dB bump in SPL.
     
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  6. Jason99

    Jason99 Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 26, 2014
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    Spoken like a true expert
     

  7. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Naw, just done it before. :)
     

  8. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Weeee doggie Strat-Talk Supporter

    would 6L6 work similar to a 5881?

    I have a spare cab. I will budget for another speaker.
     
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  9. Jason99

    Jason99 Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 26, 2014
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    More than once, I imagine
     

  10. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Well yeah. LOL

    The one amp that Mr. Monday would really love would be a 5f4 Super. There's was also a cathode biased Super...I think the 5d4.
     
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  11. Jason99

    Jason99 Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 26, 2014
    Los Angeles
    My suggestion to him would be to heed your advice.
     

  12. RJ Squirrel

    RJ Squirrel Strat-Talker

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    5D4 is cathode biased 5881 with a self balancing paraphase phase inverter.

    On paper it will work, IF your power transformer has sufficient current capacity.
     
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  13. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Weeee doggie Strat-Talk Supporter

    yea I was looking this on Mojotone.
     
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  14. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    New Sensor Tung Sol 5881s are cheap enough. That's what I'd use.
     
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  15. RJ Squirrel

    RJ Squirrel Strat-Talker

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    If you're working with a 5E3 clone, a multitap OT is another option. This option would allow the use of different speaker loads (4, 8, or 16 ohms) without placing additional current demands on the power transformer.
     

  16. Rob DiStefano

    Rob DiStefano Strat-Talker

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    why the need for more amp horsepower?

    these dayze almost all gigging venues require going through the house soundboard and PA system. more than likely you will be politely requested to "turn it down, bud". it's almost a joke to see guitarists gigging with twin reverbs and having to dial down to "1". this is where a little 5 watt single ended tube amp shines for blues 'n' rock, and lots of other genres, too ... excellent tone.
     
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  17. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Weeee doggie Strat-Talk Supporter

    I can only use about a 12-15 watt amp in my music room with the guys here playing. That gives me enough headroom to to ride the guitar volume and get some amp breakup when needed. I had a 6w VHT amp. But it was always dirty, no headroom. I have two 12-15 watt amps and was trying to figure out how to move more air, if possible with 15ish watts.