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is there a easy way to have the high E easy to bend?

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by drugo, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

    102
    May 16, 2018
    Rome
    Hi
    i have tried different setup ,but i'm still have the high E harsh to bend
    i have searching around the forum without luck , i got no solution

    i use a fluttuant bridge 2mm high from the body
    d'addario 46-10
    my action is 1.75 mm for all strings and my radius is 9.5"
    the springs are parallel

    just changed my strings with brand new ,seeing i can't get a stable tune , i have stretched my strings
    to stretch the G , B and high E , I did bend them several times , retuned and now i got a stable tune , my guitar stay in tune
    for low E , A , D i have stretched like all tutorials

    i have tried to tune the high E in half tone (♭)

    is there a way to have soft high E to bend?
    should i change springs ? or use a flat bridge with hard springs?
    higher the high E?

    i guess you had the same problem ,seeing there are so many posts

    thanks
     
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  2. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

    Age:
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    Jan 12, 2016
    Lil' Rhody
    To my hands, 10s are much stiffer than 9s.
    You might want to try 9s until you get your hand strength increased, then try 10s again.

    Never know, you might prefer the 9s.
     
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  3. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
  4. Bob the builder

    Bob the builder Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    58
    May 2, 2016
    Cranston, Rhode Island
    Bend on a acoustic for a little while. They'll feel easy later
     
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  5. Johnny Danger

    Johnny Danger Strat-O-Master

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    Aug 28, 2017
    Denton, TX
    I talked to a luthier recently that said D'Addarios were stiffer than Ernie Balls so maybe try some slinkys in the same gauge. D'Addario also make 9.5's you could try. I was considering it for the same reasons. B nd G string bends are fine, no issues. But trying to get a whole step on the E is suddenly a challenge. Same setup as you floating with D'Addario 10's. I played on some 9's for a bit and they just felt puny.

    This reminds me that I need to order some 9.5's to try out.
     
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  6. velvet_man

    velvet_man Strat-O-Master

    617
    Sep 7, 2016
    Vancouver
    This may not be helpful, but I'll through it out there. I was wondering the same thing a while back, and everyone said to try 9s. But every time I play a strat with 9s on it, I end up breaking the high E. So on a whim, I tried 11s. It sounds odd, but I found the thicker string easier to get a hold of and push, and it didn't feel like it was cutting into my finger as much as the thinner 10 gauge string. Now, I keep 11s tuned down half a step on my strat and I love it.
     
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  7. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

    102
    May 16, 2018
    Rome
    Hi
    i was used to play 0.9 several years ago but i upgrade to .10
    do you play 0.9?
    thanks

    Hi
    i have tried ernie ball 46-10 , i haven't felt such different ,but maybe because i kept for only 1 day
    have you found ernie ball 46-10 more easy to bend
    about 9.5 , i have never found on a store maybe are new
    thanks Johnny

    hi
    do you mean 46-11 or 48-11 ?
    thanks
     
  8. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

    102
    May 16, 2018
    Rome
    Hi
    well it guess I will break the high E and B very quickly
    thanks

    Hi , i do sometime ,i mean i play my acoustic and after i feel so soft
    :)
    thanks
     
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  9. velvet_man

    velvet_man Strat-O-Master

    617
    Sep 7, 2016
    Vancouver
    I use D'addario 11-49s tuned down half a step, so they feel like 10-46s as far as string tension goes, but they're a bit meatier and, I find, easier to play.
     
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  10. johnnymg

    johnnymg Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 5, 2015
    Central Coast Ca
    How long have you been playing electric guitar? It does take a few months to toughen up the finger tips.

    A couple suggestions:
    • bend the high E using 3 fingers and with an arcing motion from the wrist.
    • Use 3 'regular' springs for the tremolo.
    • Try a set of 9's. Caveat being that they are a lot easier to break (than 10's) when doing 2 semitone bends and more. Before my fingers toughened up I used 9's and 9 1/2's but I had to keep spare E strings for replacements. Make sure the frets are polished.
     
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  11. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    I haven't broken a string in years. When I did it was mainly on much more heavily strung acoustics.
     
  12. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

    102
    May 16, 2018
    Rome
    Hi
    in this video the author start to explain to setup for first the high E ,he just said the a low action on high E make it hard to bend

    i have always played guitar with floyd rose bridge and les paul with fixed bridge

    does somebody tried a strato setup with a flat bridge maybe with hard springs so it's fixed ? are less stiffer in a fixed/flat bridge setup?

    have you noticed that high E 09 ,10 or 11 are less stiffer then stratocaster ?

    he is italian ,but speaks english , well for me it's more easy understand an english or american :D

    at 3:17 minutes




    hi
    i will buy them and i will try them

    Hi
    i started to play when i was a kid , let's say 15 years
    just played guitar with floyd rose bridge or les paul fixed bridge
    i started to play fender some months ago because i love the neck , and all their guitar models

    1) i use 3 fingers to bend the high E , it's enough 1 or 2 finder on G and B
    2) i use the original fender springs in parallel even my guitar came in V springs configuration
    3) well about frets good idea

    thanks
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2018
  13. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 27, 2018
    North Central NC
    Tuning down will do it. You'll have to decide how low you want to go, and how easy you want e to bend. A half tone down should make a noticeable difference. A whole tone will make an obvious difference.

    Similar to @velvet_man, my guitars are either 9-42 standard tuning, or 10-46, down a whole step. The string tension is slightly looser on the tuned-down guitars with the heavier strings, but bending e is very pleasant and easy, and I almost never break a string.

    I prefer going a whole step for another reason... for me it makes it easy to transpose, for playing with others who are in standard tuning. Of course a capo is another easy way to transpose.
     
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  14. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

    102
    May 16, 2018
    Rome
    hi
    may i know how do you strechting the G B and E ?

    just because before strechting i have noticed are more more soft to bend, i talking about G B and High E
    thanks
     
  15. amstratnut

    amstratnut Peace thru Music. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 1, 2009
    My house.
    I would raise my action until I could get a good grip on the string. It shouldnt take much.

    Also, the string height/bridge height should mirror the fretboard radius. The wound strings require a bit more clearance though.
     
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  16. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 27, 2018
    North Central NC
    I pull (stretch) the strings when I first put them on, but it doesn't change how easily they bend.
     
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  17. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

    102
    May 16, 2018
    Rome
    hi
    i will try tomorrow
    thanks

    hi pull the low E ,A and D but everytime i have pulled the B and high E i have always break the high E
    i have seeing lutist bending these cords
    thanks
     
  18. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 27, 2018
    North Central NC
    I guess you pull harder than I do.
     
  19. Bob the builder

    Bob the builder Senior Stratmaster

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    May 2, 2016
    Cranston, Rhode Island
    Where do they break?
     
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  20. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    1. Use a lighter gauge string.
    2. Practice.
     
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