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Is this a genuine 1989 '57AVRi?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Vlad Gor, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    Your help is much appreciated:thumb:
     

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  2. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    More pics
     

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  3. elliotj26

    elliotj26 Strat-Talker Strat-Talk Supporter

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    ooo baby. i love mary kayes. Looks real to me but I don't have very experienced eyes, also i have no idea about the years.
     
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  4. rolandson

    rolandson Senior Stratmaster

    Looks like. I don't recall seeing Mary Kay w/gold when I was looking back then...wish I had!

    The neck pocket looks a bit trashed compared to my recollection of the one I ultimately bought...a sunburst variant...and I recall a circular sticker on the underside of the pickguard.

    But...I got rid of mine 21 years ago, so there's that.

    I'm guessing you're looking to buy. You might email Fender Customer Relations / Service with the serial number and I am pretty sure that they'll give you some details.
     
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  5. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

    All the details seem correct to me (tuner style, saddle fonts, neck stamps, even the number looks correct for an '89).
    However, I am unaware of a blonde with gold hardware being available that early. To my knowledge, the first Mary Kaye reissues were from the mid 90s.
    So, if I had to guess I'd say this is a genuine 1989 '57 AVRI that has been refinished (or the body changed) and had gold hardware added. Also not sure what's going on with the neck pocket- it shouldn't be roughly chiselled out like that- suggests it has been altered. There would have been stamps inside the neck pocket as well.
    My 1988 '57 did not have the circular sticker under the pickguard mentioned by @rolandson, but they do usually have a sticker on the neck in the neck pocket area (see pic below)
    I am curious to see what others have to say.
    Regardless, that's one hot instrument.


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  6. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks for your input. There is one 1988 Mary Kaye with gold on eBay. Let's see what Fender will answer
     

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  8. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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  9. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

    Ah... it's a link- that I missed. In those images you can see the serial number... which looks correct for an '87 or '88.
    So, two examples of an '88 Mary Kaye, so I'd say it's likely they were made that early.
    Damn it, now I have a new case of GAS!
    o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
     
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  10. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    :D:D:D
     

  11. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

    Mine doesn't have a pocket stamp- just some initials. It was more the rough condition of the neck pocket that caught my eye.
    Maybe it was altered to better accommodate the sitting of the neck (???). It also looks like a spacer was added under the neckplate at some point and really cranked down.

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  12. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    No specific info about neck pocket:thumbd:
     

  13. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    So Mary Kaye with gold hardware was available from the very beginning of Corona factory.

    "The opening of the Corona plant in 1985 marked the addition of a few new custom colors. All of the original custom colors were available with the addition of Surf Green (some call this Seafoam Green), Sonic Blue, and a special "Mary Kay" see-through Blonde with gold hardware."
     

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  14. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Fender does not have records prior to 1993, so they will probably be no help.
     
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  15. TorontoMapleStrat

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    It looks legitimate to me. I have seen a few of the Mary Kaye’s from the late 80’s.
     
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  16. Uncle Fiesta

    Uncle Fiesta Senior Stratmaster

    "Surf Green (some call this Seafoam Green)" ?

    Not if they know their Fenders they don't!
     
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  17. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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    More opinions on the neck pocket? That's now the only question about this guitar
     

  18. Vlad Gor

    Vlad Gor Strat-Talk Member

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  19. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

    Well, the neck pocket has the correct holes for an AVRI of that period (see my photos from earlier), so IMO, the body is probably original.
    Precisely why the pocket has been altered is a mystery to me.