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Is this a strat or what is it?

Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by larscaster, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. RobZ69

    RobZ69 Strat-O-Master

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    I think it looks great. Although 3 pickups is pushing it. For me, 2 would have been enough.

    Too bad about the decals.

    And the too obvious "medical bills" emo-trick...

    Had that guitar been on offer near me for €400~500, I could have been interested.
     
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  2. RobZ69

    RobZ69 Strat-O-Master

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    Likely, parts bought from Warmoth. Possibly, parts with bespoke specs ordered and bought from Warmoth
     

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    The body at Warmoth $500+
    The neck at Warmoth $300 ish
    Tom Anderson pickups $360
    Trem $100 or more
    Sperzel tumers $100ish
    Good switch, push pull pots, wiring, etc. $50 - $100
    As parts alone it should be worth $750 - $1000. IMO.
     

  4. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Nothing whatsoever......
     
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  5. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

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    you're describing what the parts COST, not what they're worth. For example, the body to me is worth nothing because it's not to my tastes.
     

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    Absolutely. I’m not selling that guitar or buying it. Just pointing out that if you were to build it would cost you over $1500.
     
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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    Coincidentally, my #1 Strat is a lightly oiled (non Fender) Swamp Ash body, 2005 Fender MIA neck, Fender 2 point Trem, Fender locking tuners, with 1982 Fullerton Red Bobbin pickups and electronics. I’ve got nothing against putting good parts together to make a good guitar.
    And ... I’m more of a Swamp Ash fan myself.
    I wonder if the purists consider this a ‘real’ Fender or not?

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  8. perttime

    perttime Strat-Talker

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    I'd say you have a very cool guitar that has lots of Fender parts :thumb:
     
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  9. errikwong

    errikwong Strat-Talker

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    Yeah it is a warmoth guitar, albeit pretty fancy warmoth parts!

    That said, the strat in my sig is put together using a Fender MIM replacement body, Fender True Vintage '59 pickups, USA Kluson bridge, USA electronics and a Warmoth neck that I applied a Fender decal onto because it's supposed to be a backup for my American Standard.

    Is it a Fender? Just a rhetorical question, I know, it's not a true Fender. But it sure holds its own against any other production Fender I've come across!
     
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  10. AngelDeVille

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    So my Telecaster with the Dimarzo Twang King Neck pick up and the Seymour Duncan '54 Tele Lead in th Bridge is not a 'real' Fender either? ... I'm curious ;)
     

  12. perttime

    perttime Strat-Talker

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    My instinct is to draw the line at having original body and neck.

    Debates on the subject may amuse me, up to a point, but I have no deep interest in the "realness" of a Fender. They are not collectibles, not to speak about investments, to me. They are musical instruments that hopefully please my eyes too.
     

  13. guitarface

    guitarface Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 11, 2012
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    Did it begin its life in a fender factory?
     

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    I agree ... just having fun, as I am also amused by the debate.
    Personally, I am not concerned one way or the other. I am very particular about my guitars in a much more personal and practical way. I like them to be unique and the best that I can make them, original or not.
    I only have one guitar that is a Fender Limited Run guitar that is in original condition, the rest are all modified in some way.
    The moment that other people start paying for my gear is when I would start being concerned with how they feel about it .... Have a great day!
     
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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    Some of it for sure, probably most of it ... But I'm just playing 'devils advocate'.
    It truly doesn't matter to me, the decal on the headstock doesn't affect the tone or playability. ;) I was going to ask if it was a still a 'real' Fender if it had NYXL strings on it, rather than bullets. LOL.
     
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    guitarface Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 11, 2012
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    I understand you're just playing devil's advocate but this is all very simple- did fender make the guitar?
     

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    Not all of it. What percentage is the tipping point?
     

  18. guitarface

    guitarface Senior Stratmaster

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    You see, you're over thinking it. Fender doesn't necessarily make its own parts. If fender puts a guitar together from parts, it is a fender. If someone else does it, it is not.
     

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    use my Strat above as an example. All from the Fender US factory, maybe different generations, but not a Fender factory body.
     

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    guitars Strat-Talk Member

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    If you replace the bumper on your Jeep is it still a Jeep?