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Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by larscaster, Mar 9, 2018.
This is very easy. Someone other than fender assembled this guitar. Not a fender.
Like I said, this is very easy. The question is who first made the product. Not where are the parts from, not how many parts are from which place, but who built it. Yes, your jeep is still a jeep.
Think it means the original owner, ticked some boxes on the Warmoth website.
The drop top has FIVE of the letter "A" in the rating. That's AAAAA.
I might have to buy this.
I don’t know. It’s not a Jeep brand bumper, and I put it on myself. Maybe it’s a partsjeepster? Clearly, we have strict guidelines on these matters.
What can you replace on a guitar - and keep it still a Fender?
People are taking their strats and teles apart all the time. Replace switch, add or remove a condensator, replace a pickup, replace the scratch plate, replace the neck, replace the body...
Soon it is like an airplane: a Spitfire is still the same Spitfire, even if the plate with the serial number is the only original part.
Isn't Warmouth licensed by Fender to make Fender necks and bodies. Haven't they made parts for Fender? Honest question - always heard their stuff is pretty nice.
Yes, they're licensed and they make good stuff. Doesn't mean that when someone other than fender uses their stuff to make a guitar that it is a fender.
It is what it is. I'd say body or neck replacement turns it into a partscaster. In the sales game, honesty is what matters- here's a fender where I replaced x, y and z.
A "Not Strat".
This is fun. Let me try.
What if I disassembled my Fender guitar and then put it back together myself? Fender or not?
Fender. And I'm going to need to reassemble my phone if it autocorrects to gender one more time.
Is the USS Constitution really the oldest commissioned floating warship in the world?
"Naval History and Heritage Command Detachment Boston, the unit charged with overseeing Constitution’s maintenance and repair, estimates that 10 to 15 percent of the ship’s fabric is composed of timber installed between 1795 and 1797. This “original” wood includes the ship’s keel, lower futtocks, and the deadwood at the stem and stern."
haha! OK. Let's add a small change. What if I reassembled it and changed out the pick guard?
You see where this is going.
It's a silly debate. IMHO, all that matters is the seller appears to have been honest about the guitar's parts and decal. I don't see a problem. If Fender has a problem with their decal being there, that's their business. Or perhaps the decal is just another replaced/added part.
Whole Fender guitar originally sold as a finished unit = Fender
Whole Fender guitar originally sold as a finished unit, neck or body replaced with "licensed" non-fender = Fender
All Fender components originally sold separately by Fender, assembled by non-employee = parts-caster
There are lots of 'shades of gray' here. You buy a Fender guitar and yer cat knocks it off the stand, breaking the neck. Phone call to Fender gets you a replacement, which you install yourself. A month later, your dog, in an attempt to express his artful soul has performed a severe relic-job on the body...which renders it too splintery to play. You obtain a new body from Fender. Is it a parts-caster now? How is it different from #3?
I'm not debating anything. I've just never understood why anyone might have difficulty with these questions or call something they made a fender if they are not fender?
I mostly agree.
You get into a little gray area if, for example you need to replace a neck for some good reason - and put a different Fender neck on your Strat. One or more of SRV's strats had a neck replacement.
I'd say a custom guitar made with Warmoth parts.. Warmoth being a shop that makes custom guitar parts.
Honestly it seems like the seller is being pretty honest. Not sure this is worth $900 though. I can't even sell my 'real' American Standard for that right now.
Side note - I thought P90's were single coil...?
Might be a GREAT guitar, at maybe half that price, depending upon the pedigree of all the parts--mainly the pickups.
Can't see $900 under any condition. And it's a FRAUD as labeled.